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originally posted by: thesmokingman
SA recently said we will not see $100 a barrel ever again. I dont know how much credence to put into that, but I have never heard them say that before. The rich have already invested their money in clean energy.
originally posted by: GamleGamle
THe oil situation brought me back.
This is my take ...
American oil price wil rise fast as production reductions slowly snowbal. I get the feeling the saudis are willing to sacrifice quite a big chunk of currency reserves in exchange for larger oil market share.
originally posted by: GamleGamle
Its been a long time ATS
THe oil situation brought me back.
Up front I am no expert, but just did some internet searching.
This is my take
If I understand the below chart correctly. The dollar is not that strong relatively speaking in Historical context. It is just strengthening. The thing is economic growth in china is slowly slowing down, so less and less suport from asia to mask economic weaknes in the rest of the developed nations, and a Greece exit of the euro zone although unlikely is stil on the table after everything that has happened. Not to mention midle eastern instability, cooling relations with euraisa bloc, oil nations being less attractive investment due to oil price volatility ect. The only reasonable thing to do is to invest in the largest economy in the world which holds the reserve currency and shows some superficial signs of economic strengthening compared to the rest of the world. It feels more like a natural correction reafirming American Hegemony at least of the top 1 %.
U.S. Dollar Index Historical Chart
Seeing as the euro slides rapidly and the dollar rising rapidly it makes for a nice show. It doesnt realy matter though how much they fortify the United States. Failing world economics wil eventually drag down annual growth compared to the forecast and the whole house of cards wil fal down all over again. Their underlying income inequality gap and lack of inflation adjusted income growth combined with their overwhelming debt wil at some point flush it all down the drain. They can board up the house, but that is not going to stop the flood gates.
Deflationary pressures due to oil are only temporary. So yes inflation in america could be on its way, and if Greece worries subside and the oil starts seriously rising you could well see the Dollar slide back, but if Greece does exit, you can be sure that the dollar wil remain strong even in the face of strong inflation at least for a while.
Personaly I believe Europe would economically be better of without greece in the long run, but in the short term the economic and political fallout wil be severe.
American oil price wil rise fast as production reductions slowly snowbal. I get the feeling the saudis are willing to sacrifice quite a big chunk of currency reserves in exchange for larger oil market share. Looking at long term survivability. So who knows how long they wil wait with limiting production to spike prices. 6 months to a year after US prices have spiked? Even now WTI stands higher than Brent.
Why would the rebound of sliver and gold upwards be a sign that commodities wil be rising as well. As I understand it people are seeking the safety of precious metals to minimise risk and limit their exposure to oil and stock volatility. There are reasons why oil wil rebound, but dont really see how rising precious metal demand is part of that.
Oill really seems to be a vicious cycle. Have high oil prices and the majority of the world suffers due to inflation and lower relative income, but increased consumerism makes the energy sector and the rich very happy. And when oil prices are low. Consumers are happy due to the extra income and deflationary pressures that may lead to buffering and saving money, but the macro economic slows down and companies dont grow as much, and unemployment rises ect,
Oil economics is responsible for its own predicament Mainly due to peak oil. Yes there is endles oil, but no truly cheap ways to extract and refine it as it was in the past. The high price opened up this new opportunity to extract oil in greater quantities, but at higher price, lower returns and a lot of borrowed money. In the end no matter how much volatility oil prices wil go up higher and higher in the end. Unles we make a dramatic switch of some kind, yeah right. In the mean time price volatility wil destroy a lot of capital and keep unbalancing the markets in a way that makes endles growth even less feaseable than it already was.
The early rockeffeler oil pioneer already realised how economic competition doesnt really bring balance or structure or benefit to the world, thats why he made a monopoly with standard oil, way back when and why most big buisnes today are monopolies. They need the cooperation or things get really unstable as seen now by Saudie Arabia not playing along anymore due to economic competition instead of acros the board cooperation.
People here may frrown upan a World Order, but a new economic system that is globally integrated and does not base itself on debt creation or economic competition is inevitable, no matter how long it wil take. It is the only way to steer global policy if everyone jumps on the band wagon in an orderly and harmonious fashion. We al benefit if the greater good takes precedent over greed.
Please correct augment or refute or agree with whatever I have said. I am no expert and I always like to be challenged and grow.
Kind Regards.