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and they have to really screw up in most cases before the authorities take the kids away from them.
originally posted by: TheArrow
originally posted by: NavyDoc
Look at the 5th Amendment and get back to us.
Yup, I looked at it. Doesn't say it supersedes the 2nd.
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
Everyone should have the right to protect themselves, ESPECIALLY in prison.
originally posted by: TheArrow
originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: TheArrow
You are being purposefully obtuse and childish.
And you don't have a counter argument, or you would use that brain of yours to counter my argument instead of attacking me.
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: TheArrow
originally posted by: NavyDoc
Look at the 5th Amendment and get back to us.
Yup, I looked at it. Doesn't say it supersedes the 2nd.
Your are well known for lack of critical thinking and understanding where the law and the Constitution comes in but I'll explain it for you for the elucidation of others who may be reading and may be able to think.
The 5th says this:
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
The constitution guarantees the right to life but the 5th states that it can be removed after due process.
The constitution guarantees the right to property but the 5th states that it can be removed after due process.
The constitution guarantees the right to liberty but the 5th states that it can be removed after due process.
Thus, logically, we see here that the writers of the Constitution recognize that there will be people at times who need to have their Constitutional rights removed as punishment for crime and provided a means where this would be legal--after proper due process. This is how putting a criminal in jail or fining him or confiscating the proceeds of his criminal endeavors are constitutional. This is why a convicted felon can Constitutionally have his right to vote removed.
originally posted by: projectvxn
originally posted by: TheArrow
originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: TheArrow
You are being purposefully obtuse and childish.
And you don't have a counter argument, or you would use that brain of yours to counter my argument instead of attacking me.
You're not making an argument. You're trolling. There's no incentive for me to debate someone like you.
originally posted by: Jakal26
a reply to: TheArrow
Everyone should have the right to protect themselves, ESPECIALLY in prison.
And this is the moment I knew you were trolling....or just arguing for the sake of arguing.
GREAT IDEA, buck....let's give prisoners weapons, you know...to "protect" themselves.
You have got to be f**king kidding me.
originally posted by: TheArrow
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: TheArrow
originally posted by: NavyDoc
Look at the 5th Amendment and get back to us.
Yup, I looked at it. Doesn't say it supersedes the 2nd.
Your are well known for lack of critical thinking and understanding where the law and the Constitution comes in but I'll explain it for you for the elucidation of others who may be reading and may be able to think.
The 5th says this:
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
The constitution guarantees the right to life but the 5th states that it can be removed after due process.
The constitution guarantees the right to property but the 5th states that it can be removed after due process.
The constitution guarantees the right to liberty but the 5th states that it can be removed after due process.
Thus, logically, we see here that the writers of the Constitution recognize that there will be people at times who need to have their Constitutional rights removed as punishment for crime and provided a means where this would be legal--after proper due process. This is how putting a criminal in jail or fining him or confiscating the proceeds of his criminal endeavors are constitutional. This is why a convicted felon can Constitutionally have his right to vote removed.
Yup. And like I said before, none of those rights have specific safeguards like the 2nd Amendment does. You can argue all you want, but it isn't going to make your assertions correct, because... like I said, the safeguard isn't included like it is in the 2nd.