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a reply to: OPUFO3257142119

Suspicious equals believer. Sorry I'm not buying the "I'm just suspicious of these things" when easily accessible scientific data exists that you can go read right now (some of which I just posted) which says that there is nothing to be suspicious about. Not to mention there is MORE easily accessible information that documents how this conspiracy is one giant hoax.

If you are suspicious of contrails, it's just because you want chemtrails to be true. Everyone else's suspicions ended the minute they actually looked past the surface of this conspiracy.

a reply to: OPUFO3257142119

I feel it is suspicious and would like more people to look into it.

And that is what many if not all have actually done, which is why the same people are trying to help you.

Look at it this way...we can give you information that shows chemtrails do not exist, but how you use that information is all up to you.

Suspicious equals believer. well then I guess thats it. I want it to be true. colaid here I come.

a reply to: OPUFO3257142119

Here is something that may not be direct evidence, but it's very telling.
Please notice the red circles in the following pictures.





In each one, there is a request for money. At least one of them is selling you a tshirt, the others just want you to donate to them. Why? so they can spread the 'truth'. If you ask them about the mid air samples, they will act as if it's a completely insane idea as it would be way to expensive. Yet, $50,000 was raised to make a you tube movie about chemtrails. They could have gotten several samples and proved what was really in those clouds. (hint, that's why they won't do it)

a reply to: OPUFO3257142119

At this point, there is no other reason to be suspicious unless you want it to be more than it is. By using the word suspicious you allow yourself to look like you are trying to be open minded, but a real open minded person would already have read the MOUNTAINS of evidence that debunk this conspiracy and realized that there is nothing more to it than just contrails. Instead you act coy and pretend like there is a debate when no debate exists. There is just reality and then there are the people who deny reality. Which are you?

But hey, let's humor your claim. What exactly makes you suspicious about contrails? What makes you doubt all the evidence out there that says it is a dumb idea?

a reply to: Krazysh0t
Cloud Seeding Is what I think this is. By the way, not some agenda to poison the population (but who knows). It in my view is being used for reflecting sunlight back into space and to create or control weather to some degree. I am suspicious because Im not like you and feel I have covered every aspect of this subject,...I haven't I have a regular life. There fore Suspicious.

originally posted by: OPUFO3257142119
Suspicious equals believer. well then I guess thats it. I want it to be true. colaid here I come.

The point is that chemtrail theory is so batsh*t crazy as far as conspiracy theories go (it TOTALLY is if you even remotely understand the logistics of it and the simple fact that no plane could ever carry enough chemical to spray for that long) that any person who seriously gave it some honest thought would dismiss it very quickly. And he's right. .

As for my post. Sure it was off topic and maybe a bit rude .but there are 20 pages of posts where the patient debunkers have explained the facts over and over again. They have provided honest links to factual data and science that anyone is free to debunk themselves and discuss. They have almost BEGGED for honest discourse and any scrap of real proof. And all they get iin return is to be called liars, paid shills and asked to accept youtube videos, Alex Jones videos and patents as proof.

And let's not forget the chemmie mantra " I don't need science, i know what I saw. Nothing you can explain to me will sway me"

Maybe you haven't read a lot of posts/threads in here. I have. Almost every one and these guys have humbled me with their patience in the matter.

I'm not as nice/patient as them unfortunately and i will openly say that anyone who thinks contrails are still chemtrails after being shown the science deserves ridicule. I don't openly do it as it's against the rules here on ATS and im trying to be more like the more seasoned debunkers in this sub forum.

But please please please try to understand that we have NOTHING to prove to you. The science of persistent conttrail formation is extremely well understood. That's our bit done. That's ALL we can do

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY PLANE CURRENTLY FLYING TO HOLD ANY WHERE NEAR THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF CHEMICAL FOR THE SPRAYING OF SUCH LONG TRAILS.

IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE CHEMICAL TO BE IN THE FUEL. FUEL IS CHECKED AND ENGINE ARE SUPREMELY FINE TUNED MACHINES. ANY THING EXTRA IN THE FUEL WOULD HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE ENGINE.

Sorry for the shouting. But i felt it was necessary.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

SPLC? Tavistock? Cass Sunstein?

a reply to: OPUFO3257142119

now go madd

Were are you guys getting all this time on your hands to type all this out.

originally posted by: OPUFO3257142119
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Cloud Seeding Is what I think this is. By the way, not some agenda to poison the population (but who knows). It in my view is being used for reflecting sunlight back into space and to create or control weather to some degree. I am suspicious because Im not like you and feel I have covered every aspect of this subject,...I haven't I have a regular life. There fore Suspicious.

Well, thanks for stating what you believe.
I think with a little googling on your part, you can rest very, very easy.
Look up weathermodificationinc.com. A company that seeds clouds to make their profit. They explain what they do, and more importantly, how they do it.

They google "how is cloud seeding done" to be sure they are telling you the truth.

Once you have a firm grasp on cloud seeding, you will learn that "they" can only seed existing clouds. And the existing clouds they seed are low altitude clouds. (the one's that make rain)

Then, you will learn that what they do usually cannot be seen from the ground as they are seeding above the cloud.

Once you have all that, you will see why cloud seeding has nothing to do with chemtrails.

In all actuality, the only thing the debunkers here are saying is those lines in the sky that look like contrails, are most likely contrails. If you believe they are chemtrails, you kind of need to explain why. If you don't, then discussion is impossible.

originally posted by: OPUFO3257142119
Were are you guys getting all this time on your hands to type all this out.

We are all paid by the government to post here to keep people like you from finding out that science is actually a conspiracy. All of it. Even the parts you like.

a reply to: OPUFO3257142119

I must conclude that the points I put to you were unanswerable then.

Oh, and how on earth CAN it be cloud seeding?????? Methinks you don't know what that means.

Ok enough said guys i get it you all have been pulling your hair out trying to get this understood for what it is. sure fine OK well now we have tons of content on this thread for persons to look at a debate

Mission accomplished

Sorry had to end with the whole call out of SPLC and others its just funnie Not that you are but wow way to much time on our hands.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: OPUFO3257142119
Were are you guys getting all this time on your hands to type all this out.

We are all paid by the government to post here to keep people like you from finding out that science is actually a conspiracy. All of it. Even the parts you like.

originally posted by: OPUFO3257142119
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Cloud Seeding Is what I think this is. By the way, not some agenda to poison the population (but who knows). It in my view is being used for reflecting sunlight back into space and to create or control weather to some degree. I am suspicious because Im not like you and feel I have covered every aspect of this subject,...I haven't I have a regular life. There fore Suspicious.

Cloud seeding isn't the same as contrails. You are correct in that cloud seeding is used to manipulate weather to some degree, but you would never be able to accomplish what you are suggesting with it. When you cloud seed, you use an entirely different method to do so.

Also, if you think this is cloud seeding, why does your "evidence" include pictures of skies with little to no clouds? Like this one:


If you TRULY are suspicious of this conspiracy because of lack of research, then go do the research. Finding the answers is a simple Google search away. Instead you make excuses in this thread for why chemtrail believers haven't analyzed the makeup of all these contrails. Doesn't the idea that chemtrail believers refuse to analyze these contrails make you suspicious? Doesn't THAT ring any alarm bells in your head?

a reply to: OPUFO3257142119

Yea, it just kind of proves what I already knew. The only thing you are interested in is what you think sounds good.
Please ignore any and all factual information presented. (as you have diligently so far)

And for the love of GOD, don't go outside without wearing a face mask. They are spraying in your area today!

originally posted by: OPUFO3257142119
a reply to: Krazysh0t

SPLC? Tavistock? Cass Sunstein?

You are going to have to be more specific here. What is the Southern Poverty Law Center saying that makes you doubt the official story on contrails? What is the Tavistock Institute releasing that makes you doubt contrails? And why does a Constitutional lawyer's opinion matter in the regards of a scientific discussion?

originally posted by: OPUFO3257142119
Were are you guys getting all this time on your hands to type all this out.

Well. I just finished cooking and eating tacos with the missus and im lying on the sofa typing this on my phone while Shaun of the Dead is on. Hardy taxing or time consuming. ...

originally posted by: OPUFO3257142119
Were are you guys getting all this time on your hands to type all this out.

I type 80+ words a minute and I'm long winded so as to better get my point across. It's not tough to accomplish this with a little bit of practice in typing and critical thought.