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originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: WarminIndy
My post sounded a little more harsh after another read, I didn't mean it in a belittling way. God can do whatever he likes, but I think that our existence is the proof of his work, what is within is far more reliable than an outer messianic figure (idol). We are already saved by having life, there is no need for a sacrifice of any kind, only love. Forgive others and you will be forgiven and love them as yourself. The world would be a much better place if people actually followed Jesus' words.
Yes, but for those who don't know Jesus' word, then are the world views of reward and punishment not applicable because they don't know? There has always been the idea of reward and punishment in every culture.
The bad have to be punished somehow and the good have to be rewarded somehow. Do you think it is fair and just for extraordinarily wicked to just go into the grave and never be punished?
We wish there was some one to balance the scales but the truth is there isn't.
originally posted by: LittleByLittle
a reply to: Entreri06
We wish there was some one to balance the scales but the truth is there isn't.
Many wish that the mirror coming back to haunt or bless them is an illusion so that people can behave however they want without consequences.
This place is a good testing ground. The in between for the souls who are in between.
Namaste
originally posted by: Entreri06
originally posted by: LittleByLittle
a reply to: Entreri06
We wish there was some one to balance the scales but the truth is there isn't.
Many wish that the mirror coming back to haunt or bless them is an illusion so that people can behave however they want without consequences.
This place is a good testing ground. The in between for the souls who are in between.
Namaste
I don't even know what that means..
originally posted by: Entreri06
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: WarminIndy
My post sounded a little more harsh after another read, I didn't mean it in a belittling way. God can do whatever he likes, but I think that our existence is the proof of his work, what is within is far more reliable than an outer messianic figure (idol). We are already saved by having life, there is no need for a sacrifice of any kind, only love. Forgive others and you will be forgiven and love them as yourself. The world would be a much better place if people actually followed Jesus' words.
Yes, but for those who don't know Jesus' word, then are the world views of reward and punishment not applicable because they don't know? There has always been the idea of reward and punishment in every culture.
The bad have to be punished somehow and the good have to be rewarded somehow. Do you think it is fair and just for extraordinarily wicked to just go into the grave and never be punished?
In human society we feel the need to punish and reward the good and bad. But nature and the universe don't. A winter storm doesn't care how much faith or love you have. It'll freeze a child molester the same as a saint. Hell there was no mention of hell as a place of punishment for unbelievers till like 700 years ago. We wish there was some one to balance the scales but the truth is there isn't.
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: Entreri06
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: WarminIndy
My post sounded a little more harsh after another read, I didn't mean it in a belittling way. God can do whatever he likes, but I think that our existence is the proof of his work, what is within is far more reliable than an outer messianic figure (idol). We are already saved by having life, there is no need for a sacrifice of any kind, only love. Forgive others and you will be forgiven and love them as yourself. The world would be a much better place if people actually followed Jesus' words.
Yes, but for those who don't know Jesus' word, then are the world views of reward and punishment not applicable because they don't know? There has always been the idea of reward and punishment in every culture.
The bad have to be punished somehow and the good have to be rewarded somehow. Do you think it is fair and just for extraordinarily wicked to just go into the grave and never be punished?
In human society we feel the need to punish and reward the good and bad. But nature and the universe don't. A winter storm doesn't care how much faith or love you have. It'll freeze a child molester the same as a saint. Hell there was no mention of hell as a place of punishment for unbelievers till like 700 years ago. We wish there was some one to balance the scales but the truth is there isn't.
You mean no mention of hell 700 years ago?
Yes, the English word hell comes from the goddess Hel of Norse culture. She is the goddess of the fiery underworld of Norse mythology.
Also, in early Hinduism, there is the concept of a hell. The Mayans also believed in it as well as Buddha. Every culture had the belief in a place of reward or punishment.
originally posted by: Entreri06
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: Entreri06
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: WarminIndy
My post sounded a little more harsh after another read, I didn't mean it in a belittling way. God can do whatever he likes, but I think that our existence is the proof of his work, what is within is far more reliable than an outer messianic figure (idol). We are already saved by having life, there is no need for a sacrifice of any kind, only love. Forgive others and you will be forgiven and love them as yourself. The world would be a much better place if people actually followed Jesus' words.
Yes, but for those who don't know Jesus' word, then are the world views of reward and punishment not applicable because they don't know? There has always been the idea of reward and punishment in every culture.
The bad have to be punished somehow and the good have to be rewarded somehow. Do you think it is fair and just for extraordinarily wicked to just go into the grave and never be punished?
In human society we feel the need to punish and reward the good and bad. But nature and the universe don't. A winter storm doesn't care how much faith or love you have. It'll freeze a child molester the same as a saint. Hell there was no mention of hell as a place of punishment for unbelievers till like 700 years ago. We wish there was some one to balance the scales but the truth is there isn't.
You mean no mention of hell 700 years ago?
Yes, the English word hell comes from the goddess Hel of Norse culture. She is the goddess of the fiery underworld of Norse mythology.
Also, in early Hinduism, there is the concept of a hell. The Mayans also believed in it as well as Buddha. Every culture had the belief in a place of reward or punishment.
Yea, but if I'm right, wasn't the first mention of a Christian place of punishment Dante's inferno? Which was a millinia and a half after the last contact with some one who actually knew?