our media helping to uneducate and make criminals out of good people

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Well my parents told me grand theft auto would ruin me and I have still never intentionally driven over a hooker in real life.

It's a crappy song but it's probably not going to influence an entire generation of people

a reply to: rockintitz

"Intentionally" you say? Hmm.. Guilty conscience maybe?

Have you ever ACCIDENTALLY driven over a hooker then?

I kid, I kid! I just had to poke at ya.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I knew someone would. Guess I shoulda been more liberal with my use of smileys

a reply to: drz400

As a follow up to my last reply to you drz....Take a peek at the video that xuenchen dropped on us with Chuck Berry on American Bandstand circa late 50s. Even though Chuck is wearing a scholastic robe for this show, the message of the song was even then we can hardly wait for the bell to ring so we can have a good time.

And Look at the audience. Not one black Asian or Hispanic face in the crowd. This was the most popular teenage, if not the only nationally syndicated teenage music show in the country. In one of Berry's popular songs of that day he mentions, several times his "ding-aling-aling". Imagine the white fathers of all those young teenage girls in that audience freaking out as their little girls squeal and faint over this black man when he sings about his penis. Holy Crapazoli.

There was a point in the mid 50's when the youth of America began gyrating to rock and roll. It had pretty much begun with them gravitating to rhythm and blues of which rock and roll emerged. However rhythm and blues was dominated by non-white entertainers and there was no way that the establishment of the day was going to let it go main-stream under those conditions. The big labels and producers, big and small, began hunting the countryside in search of white boys who could lure the youth back towards white entertainers. One with the sex appeal for the girls, one who could sing with the swagger of rhythm and blues but who was white. Drum roll.............Elvis Presley. There were others of course, like Pat Boone. Boone was a good christian boy who covered a number of the more popular tunes that were coming up at the time but that guy just could not swing. But Elvis, oh man. He got on the Ed Sullivan Show, and the censors were ready to shut it down if he swung his hips to much.

The truth is drz, music used to be the providence of church goers. Singing hymns in church. If you were lucky you could sing the hymns out of church too. But singing anything that was not Jesus oriented? It was of the devil. And somehow, over the generations, as each new generation grew up and began following a new style of music, it was deemed satanic by the elders.

All that said, I still agree with you that the song you posted was a bunch of bosh.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I agree, this song is poppy garbage and why anyone would like it is beyond me.

Then again, my own taste in music would make most people here cock an eyebrow and wonder what's wrong with me.

"You mean you listen to a singer that doesn't even EXIST? You weirdo."

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
truly ?....

"i dont wanna go to school,i just wanna break the rules,going to a discotech getting high and getting wrecked"...is a pretty poor message to be sending to kids especially at the age where they are easily led

Did you read my post? I pointed out the exact same message among people during the 60's. I'm sure if I look it's in the 70's, 80's, 90's, and 00's as well. It's a bunch of kids saying they would rather party than study, that's hardly some new concept or indicative of the downfall of civilization.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

Good advice ...i wish my old man was a Pink Floyd fan he was a Simon and Garfunkel fan and didnt hide it at all

a reply to: Aazadan

i may have had a little bit of comprehension difficulty last night after consuming large amounts of beer....point taken

Escapism. Everybody does it. Everybody needs it.

Any kid who watches this and takes it seriously or literally has far bigger issues than a pop video.

I wouldn't stress too much about it.

The things is, as many here have already said they cant see it happening is, that yes many teens are hearing this and taking this songs advice.

I hate to say it but if you have kids, especially in this day and age, they are lying to you 95% of the time about who they are with, where and anything else.

kids are more corrupt than ever before, I know this as am still in my very early 20's.

its blasphemy to say that kids aren't listening to music and incorporating what they hear into their lives because they are!! Look at rap music, look at the clothes many will wear because their favorite rapper does, look at all the perfumes made for girls by musicians... See what I'm getting at?

oh, and the biggest factor that proves people do what they listen too, is the sudden increase in Marijuana users. Seriously if you know one ask them why, it'll intrigue you. Most potheads I know started because of rap music......
worse is half the parents dont even know what there kids listen to anymore because of ipods and phones.

originally posted by: wutang717

I hate to say it but if you have kids, especially in this day and age, they are lying to you 95% of the time about who they are with, where and anything else.

kids are more corrupt than ever before, I know this as am still in my very early 20's.

I'm sorry...what?

Presumably I will guess you were born circa 1990...perhaps a touch later

More corrupt than ever

My friend, as a child of the 80's, might I ask you to peruse the rap shelf of the 90's?

F the police
Cop Killer
Gin N Juice
Protect Ya Neck ((this one should sound familiar given your screen name))
And Justice For All ((another one you may know))

NWA of the 90's - can't even write the title of the song without getting banned
2 Live Crew
Street Level
it goes on and on, rock, rap, hip hop, pop

every decade...every genre...every generation had vulgar, offensive, and tasteless, poorly inspired music that kids jumped on

It's no different.

I'm a pop guy myself...I dig Charli tunes...and I know there are much worse examples today...but while this song may not be in the tastes of older folks today ((as in older than the 20's)) it's pretty much the least of my worries in the last several decades of offensive and suggestive music

Even my beloved 80's had tons of examples of music moms wished sons didn't hear

And if most potheads started due to rap music ((which I would love to see some stats as opposed to the few anecdotal people you describe here)) then the 80's and 90's are FAR more dangerous for pot as yo described it. Rap began gaining a foothold in the 80's and flourished in the 90's

www.gallup.com...

Marijuana use Gallup Poll

young adult MJ use down from 70's-80's

teens.drugabuse.gov...

"Prior to 2007, marijuana use was on the decline"

Meaning while rap was growing and booming

But most importantly is your last statement...parents don't know...ipods/iphones/droid

You are pretty darn correct there...of course there is a massive gaping hole in the argument being made here...it ISN'T the music's fault!

And IF it is...then I place 99% blame on parents who have adopted a hands-off, no consequences approach to things now. It is not illegal or unethical for concerned mothers/fathers to pick up the iphone and look at what is on the playlist and sample it. Afterall, they ARE the parents

"taking the song's advice"

well then we sure have failed as parents haven't we....you can emotionally innoculate your children against ugly crap like this

but Charli? I would have at least picked Iggy to go after

oh well

people are neither inherently good nor evil--we have a choice to make

You are right in saying that our culture is driving plenty to choose evil. And that's why it is so imperative to try to be good. Everyone does bad things--but there are those who then keep doing bad things without a care and those who feel bad about being bad and choose to change something about themselves.

It's always been like this. It was especially bad during the Dark Ages.

But yes. The world is going to hell in a handbasket. And it keeps on getting worse.

a reply to: drz400
The only crime here is that the video is lackluster at best, even in all the skimpy outfits that girl wears, and the bigger crime offcousre being that the song just sucks...badly. Blows chunks I believe is the phrase today.

But your probably right, somebody may have some sort of lifechanging epitome from watching this song and may go out and try to peek up some schoolgirls skirt. Thereby leading to the death of all civilization and what not. In all I see nothing that has not been done before, Madonna and Britney Spears did it better. Now a days we have lady gaga wearing a meat dress to attract peoples eye and to cause a stir. Next we will have some starlet walking around with there chewawa on there head as hat and fashion accessory, and all for some attention.

I suppose I could care. But I find it really really hard to do so, its all just so lame.