This CIA Report Proves 911 Wasn't an Inside Job.

a reply to: Urantia1111

I totally agree with you. We should never think that the government didn't have people adept in torture in 2001. That'd be an absurd assumption.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: samkent

I've been saying the above for years. The larger the secret the more people are involved and therefore the greater the chances of accidental disclosure. No-one has ever come forwards to claim first hand knowledge - other than to say that their brother in law knew this guy who got drunk one night in a bar in Reno who told him that he knew a guy who knew another guy who might have hinted at involvement. It's all a load of honk.

The same can be said for top security in all facets of the military. There are hundreds if not thousands of people involved in every top secret project imaginable. No one spills the beans about any of it.

So let me get this straight, if it's was an inside job it would have taken hundreds of personnel to carry it out, but if it's an outside job then it only takes around 19 men with box cutters?

Gullible much?

a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

But it wasn't pulled off perfectly. Sure, mission accomplished but not without gaping holes large enough for a truck to pass through. To pull it off perfectly would mean no one questions it. That clearly did not happen.

a reply to: ThePeaceMaker

Every last video that showed ANY hint of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon, was released LONG ago. The ever popular claim that the FBI seized 87 videos from the area and hid them away is rubbish. They did have 87 videos, but those were videos from New York, Pennsylvania and Arlington.

In addition, the gate camera video from the Pentagon DOES show Flight 77....what you can see of it due to its distance, angle and the frame rate of the camera.

a reply to: TheLieWeLive

Funny, I never considered that for an argument. Great point.

a reply to: TheLieWeLive

If you believe the conventional "inside job" theories, yes, it would take a cast of hundreds....and that is just for wiring the buildings for demolition. Now, if you live in the real world, yeah, it does not take a cast of hundreds to hijack four airplanes.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: samkent

I've been saying the above for years. The larger the secret the more people are involved and therefore the greater the chances of accidental disclosure. No-one has ever come forwards to claim first hand knowledge - other than to say that their brother in law knew this guy who got drunk one night in a bar in Reno who told him that he knew a guy who knew another guy who might have hinted at involvement. It's all a load of honk.

Rockefeller towers built on Rockefeller land. Id bet that they had the plan set before the buildings were even constructed.

a reply to: FlySolo

The same can be said for top security in all facets of the military. There are hundreds if not thousands of people involved in every top secret project imaginable. No one spills the beans about any of it.

Here are a list of 32 Americans who have been convicted of spying for the Soviet Union.
This doesn't count the ones convicted for spying for Russia.
Nor china
Nor West Germany
Nor Hungary
Nor Japan
The list goes on. . . .
American Spies

Nor does it count the ones who have never been caught.

originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: ThePeaceMaker

Every last video that showed ANY hint of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon, was released LONG ago. The ever popular claim that the FBI seized 87 videos from the area and hid them away is rubbish. They did have 87 videos, but those were videos from New York, Pennsylvania and Arlington.

In addition, the gate camera video from the Pentagon DOES show Flight 77....what you can see of it due to its distance, angle and the frame rate of the camera.

So you are telling me, the pentagon, one of Americas most famous buildings where all sorts of stuff happens which is also monitored by loads of cameras and that grainy footage is the best they have ? Please pull the other leg please. Show me some other footage apart from the grainy crap they are selling us and I'll happily change my mind

If YOU trust the SPOOKS go ahead.
WE in the military have learned just how wrong they can be ,willful or otherwise.

a reply to: samkent

I don't see your point. Who are spies going to tell? CNN? Fox news? And you're forgetting spies don't spill the beans to the people they're spying on. That's why they're called spies, not rats.

a reply to: samkent

Pretending to be stupid is a very old trick.

Honestly. Look up old footage of George W. Bush running for governor of Texas, and compare the footage you find to GWB running for President--including all of the footage of his speeches after he became president.

He was quite the linguist when he was running for governor. There is no doubt in my mind that he was acting stupid throughout his term as president.

I wholeheartedly believe that 9/11 was a sloppy coverup way to get us back in the Middle East doing some damage. The U.S. is "Big Brother" (CoughBigBullyCough) of the world and there always has to be a boogeyman. Middle Easterners/Groups 'made' by Middle Easterners have been that boogeyman for a long time.

Bush needed to finish what Bush Sr. didn't.

I know Bush and Cheney look idiotic, but remember, Presidents and Vice Presidents are puppets. Who says the Puppet Master isn't smarter?

Sure, the government can and usually is pretty slow moving and inept... BUT, when someone wants something done, it can be pushed through very quickly, quietly and efficiently.

Actually, I would want the public image of my machine to looks incompetent, to keep people from believing I was actually capable of doing dastardly deeds. Misdirection 101.

I see where you're coming from but it proves no such thing.
Cheney Guiliani and a group of 30 from Blackwater
is all that was needed.

originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: ThePeaceMaker

Every last video that showed ANY hint of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon, was released LONG ago. The ever popular claim that the FBI seized 87 videos from the area and hid them away is rubbish. They did have 87 videos, but those were videos from New York, Pennsylvania and Arlington.

In addition, the gate camera video from the Pentagon DOES show Flight 77....what you can see of it due to its distance, angle and the frame rate of the camera.

at any intersection in any country there are at least 4 different videos capturing
you going through. And we are to believe the Pentagon had one RadioShack time lapse camera from 1982 ?

a reply to: UnderKingsPeak

And we are to believe the Pentagon had one RadioShack time lapse camera from 1982 ?

If they wer trying to reconcile accounting records on computers from the 80's, why would you expect the camera system to be up to date?
The military is still using the M2 maching gun dating from 1933.
If there is no reason to change something why bother?

a reply to: ThePeaceMaker

The Pentagon, did not have the camera system that you think it did. Its primary security, first, last, and foremost, was the Pentagon Police Force. So, in other words, YES that grainy footage is the best there was then.

a reply to: samkent

Ok...Ill play the devil's advocate. Its a CIA report! Dis-informantion. Are we becoming even more stupid? And now we begin to believe anything they say, do or deny?

Its the CIA for Gods sake.........