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originally posted by: FamCore
Can you give some key points/facts that really stuck out for you? I'd appreciate a little more detail before delving into an hour + docu.
Thank you OP!
a reply to: stosh64
originally posted by: Hushabye
a reply to: Mr Headshot
I'm about 20 minutes in. This is great. I wish I had been raised with those kids pulling the grains with their moms!
originally posted by: stosh64
originally posted by: FamCore
Can you give some key points/facts that really stuck out for you? I'd appreciate a little more detail before delving into an hour + docu.
Thank you OP!
a reply to: stosh64
It points out how over the last 300 years at least, the elites have been in control of our western education.
How it has spread every where throughout the world.
All the places it has spread used to be self sufficient eco systems that had a balance with the land, respect and admiration of every ones unique attributes, and a much more spiritual attitude of admiration for the natural world.
Once western education takes over all that is intentionally done away with and we are molded into obedient little workers for the elites, and in turn we are trained to buy the goods WE make that the elites sell us.
I got chills watching it and it changed me as a person.
I grieve for what we have lost because I don't believe there is a fix for what has been created.
Hope that helps, and hope you can watch it.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: stosh64
originally posted by: FamCore
Can you give some key points/facts that really stuck out for you? I'd appreciate a little more detail before delving into an hour + docu.
Thank you OP!
a reply to: stosh64
It points out how over the last 300 years at least, the elites have been in control of our western education.
How it has spread every where throughout the world.
All the places it has spread used to be self sufficient eco systems that had a balance with the land, respect and admiration of every ones unique attributes, and a much more spiritual attitude of admiration for the natural world.
Once western education takes over all that is intentionally done away with and we are molded into obedient little workers for the elites, and in turn we are trained to buy the goods WE make that the elites sell us.
I got chills watching it and it changed me as a person.
I grieve for what we have lost because I don't believe there is a fix for what has been created.
Hope that helps, and hope you can watch it.
That's complete BS. The Native Americans used to run massive quantities of buffalo off of cliffs to hunt them. They'd take the meat they needed and left the rest to rot. Not to mention between the time that Chris Columbus landed in the Americas and when Jamestown was established, one of the biggest plagues to ever hit mankind ravaged the countryside. Before that, the Native American populations were said to be as large as the European populations. And just as diverse. The idea of nature loving indians is one born out of Hollywood.
Buffalo jump sites yield significant archaeological evidence because processing sites and camps were always nearby. The sites yield information as to how the Native Americans used the bison for food, clothing and shelter. Plains Indians in particular depended on the bison for their very survival. Every part of the animal could be used in some way: hides for clothes and shelter, bones for tools, sinews for bowstrings and laces. Hooves could be ground for glue, and the brains could be used in the tanning process for the hides. The extra meat was preserved as pemmican
Today it is estimated that the total herd size is in the 500,000 range, about 250,000 of which are based in Canada. This of course is a far cry from the approximate 50 million animals that roamed the western ranges prior to European settlement.
Originally, the Native Plains Indians of North America used just about every part of the bison. Their lives revolved around the availability of bison (see chart). But by the 1890s this all changed as the bison were being eliminated by European settlers. This occurred for two reasons.
Possibly only 2.1 to 7 million "Indians"
It is estimated that when the first Europeans arrived in 1492 there were 15 to 20 million Native Americans living in the land.
It’s a convenient and easily told story, but it has left students, well, buffaloed. It has certainly caused the story of the buffalo to be misunderstood. Several new scholarly studies have emerged, though, and they universally provide a much more complex picture of the Great Plains in the late 1800s. Among other revisions, the works address the nature of Indian hunting, white motivations for killing the bison, and nonhuman factors affecting herd sizes. Most of all, though, they show that the ultimate savior of the buffalo was not the government, but the free market. Here, I will briefly review the findings insofar as they throw new light on the economics of the Indians both before and after the arrival of whites. I will look then at their assessment of the hunting efficiency of both Indians and whites. Finally, we will examine how private market forces, not government action, revived the buffalo herds.
The first myth they explode is that of the "natural" Indian who lived in harmony with nature-unlike the greedy Europeans who conquered the continent. Instead, the authors unveil evidence of communal economies that engaged in large-scale burning to "clear" forests and also to kill game. "Controlled" burns by the Indians often got out of control, and without modern firefighting equipment, flashed through forests, destroying everything in their path. Deer, beaver, and birds of all sorts were already on a trajectory to extinction in some areas, because over and above the hunting done by Indians, natural predators and disasters thinned herds. Isenberg wonders whether the North American bison herd was already falling below replacement levels before white hunters arrived.
The ultimate problem, however, was lack of property rights. One trader observed that the moving habits of the Plains Indians "prevent the accumulation of much baggage. . . . Thus personal property cannot be acquired to any amount."2 Lacking the ability to store a surplus, the Indians acquired none. While their communal heritage encouraged them to band together in hard times, the lack of surplus meat or robes meant that they only shared scarcity. A powerful myth emerged-one repeated in many textbooks-that the Indians "used every part of the buffalo," implying that the Plains Indians used all the buffalo they killed. That was not the case. Estimates made in the 1850s suggest that Indians harvested about 450,000 animals a year, and some think the figure was far higher than that. After stripping the best meat and some useful parts, the Indians left the remainder to rot. The stench permeated the prairie for miles, and many a pioneer came across acres of bones from buffalo killed by the Indians before they moved on.