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originally posted by: peck420
originally posted by: openminded2011
We should start by pulling all our military support for the UK. Then the next time there is a world war, you can ask the Russians to come over and spill their blood for you instead of us.
So, you mean do exactly what happened in the last two world wars?
Russia spilled a lot of blood, in the allies behalf, long before the US even decided to join the fight.
The UK received 385 million USD of its Marshall plan aid in the form of loans.[77] Unconnected to the Marshall plan the UK also received direct loans from the US amounting to 4.6 billion USD.[77] The proportion of Marshall plan loans versus Marshall plan grants was roughly 15% to 85% for both the UK and France.[80]
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: stumason
From 1948 - 1951 the US, via the Marshall Plan, provided the UK with over 3 billion in aid out of a total of 13 billion allocated to the Marshall Plan.
The UK received 385 million USD of its Marshall plan aid in the form of loans.[77] Unconnected to the Marshall plan the UK also received direct loans from the US amounting to 4.6 billion USD.[77] The proportion of Marshall plan loans versus Marshall plan grants was roughly 15% to 85% for both the UK and France.[80]
source
Lend-Lease Act
Joseph Stalin, during the Tehran Conference in 1943, acknowledged publicly the importance of American efforts during a dinner at the conference: "Without American production the United Nations [the Allies] could never have won the war."
originally posted by: WineWithIce5
AWESOME
but lets face it
US owns the European leaders by the balls. If US wants Europe to go straight to hell and be on front lines with Russia. Europe will oblige like the little puppets they are.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
No they joined with the Germans until the Germans turned on them, or they would have fell right in to the German lie.
originally posted by: pikestaff
a reply to: openminded2011
The UK ASKED the USA for help, no-one twisted the presidents arm, plus just how much money (gold) did the USA make out of both world wars? and the loans afterwards? $5 billion at 2% to the Brits in 1947?
originally posted by: MysterX
Well...he's right in one respect...the USA is on it's last legs.
It's going down the pan and will take Europe with it kicking and screaming.
Best cut the rope and align ourselves with the on the up, energy rich Russian Federation rather than the 'also ran', failing and increasingly corrupt and desperate USA.
ETA: 'Fantastical' has always been a word guys.
So, what exactly is your point.
Oh wait, you don't actually have one, you are just doing the same old joke of ATS...USA Good! Russia Bad!