What is a feminist, what is feminism, and what is a 'feminazi'? Do you know what they are?

originally posted by: nenothtu

originally posted by: diggindirt

I was 5' 8" and weighed less than 100 pounds. I heard a lot of "Hey, string bean!" and "Do you stand under a clothesline when it rains?" and lots of other taunts.

Same here. I was 6'2" and all of 120 lbs. I heard all of that - but I bet I heard one you didn't. "Hey! If you stand sideways and stick your tongue out, it'd look like yer zipper was open!"

Sexist assholes!

Fortunately, my parents were there to comfort me and teach me to deal with adversity over which I had no control. I learned quickly that refusing to be offended bothered the culprits far more than any snide retort I could make. I refused to give them the power over me. Any woman can do that, must do that if she is to be in charge of her life.
The feminist movement would do well to show women how to empower themselves rather than depending on laws to attain justice. However, a lot of women make a ton of money by keeping the feminist movement alive, empowering women to live without them would seriously diminish those returns.

But that is the ONLY thing that will ultimately work with a lasting effect. You want that life? Take charge of it! Power comes from within - never from without. That external sort is always going to be subject to revocation or just plain power failure, and worse, leaves one in debt to someone else.

You owe me a keyboard...nah, I should know better...that tea it just showered with will drain right on through, won't it?

See, the empowerment thing makes the most sense to me too but I got this blank stare when I tried to broach that subject along the lines of self-defense being a useful skill. I was set upon with, "Why should I have to learn to defend myself?" This confused me. My parents taught me that I was ultimately the only one who could and would defend me. They taught me that there are crazy people in the world and a goodly number of those crazy people are bigger and stronger than me. Thus my response of, "Crazy people? Learning to "hit and run like hell" or "hit and maim" are useful skills in a world where there are crazy people." You can imagine how appalled they were when I suggested that the most effective self-defense skill for anyone is marksmanship.

originally posted by: mahatche
He's a new annoying example of what happens when you indoctrinate entitled people with the anti-patriarchy doctrine.

Feminists decided men only sit with their legs open because of their privilege and need to look macho. It couldn't possibly be because we something between our legs that gets REALLY uncomfortable when smashed. Noooo it's only because we have an inherent desire to make women bow to THE PATRIARCHY!!!!.
mic.com...

I've never once in my life sat down and thought "Gee, i hope this looks macho" or "I hope this postures exudes my male privilege" nope, sorry, my legs naturally fall in an open position because there is something between them, please stop oppressing my testicles!

Sorry - that sort of woman's whole mission in life is to oppress your testicles!

it's her reason for being - you have no right to oppress the free expression of her femininity!

Mash those puppies! Do it like you MEAN it!

Suck it up, buttercup!

Be a man!

originally posted by: MarkJS

originally posted by: nenothtu

originally posted by: MarkJS

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: MarkJS
"What is a feminist, what is feminism, and what is a 'feminazi'?"

Feminist- a person who expounds non-traditional rights for women. They believe in the empowered woman.

Feminism - a hypocritical movement.

Feminazi - a doctrine that is in its core- hypocritical.

The feminist movement went ahead and destroyed the image and role of women in America - giving them new powers, goals and responsibilities. BTW- not all women are happy about this. Many do not like working 40hrs/wk, and raising kids, and cleaning the house.

At any rate, the feminist movement, for better or worse, has changed the way women are perceived in American society.

They are total hypocrites, however... at least the official leaders of the feminist movement are. This is because they completely ignore the subservient role that the Muslim women have in America. Not a peep. Crickets chirping... which stops occasionally when a Muslim woman cries or groans under Muslim oppression. The crickets also stop chirping and wonder WTF when underaged Muslim girls are wed off- here in America, in their cultures without the local officials knowing anything about it.

If anybody ever needed freeing and liberation, it is Muslim women and girls living in America.

Way to go Feminazis. Hypocrites!

I'll bet you're out there fighting to end the oppression of women living under the fundamentalist Muslim and fundamentalist Christian thumb, aren't you? Not.

If you're in the feminist movement, in NOW.... that's your job. Or at least I thought that it was.

As a Christian, I have done my part to liberate women from oppression.

Sweet Jesus! I've finally found a Christian that just wants to rag on Muslims!

To whomever made that claim in another thread, which I disputed - I stand corrected!

If by ragging on them I want to see Muslim women:
-not be treated like second class citizens - in the US which is supposedly so modern.
-not have children wedded off in secret in America
and if I want to see NOW and any, all feminists have the guts to address these issues in America (whose job I thought it was to do)...

Then you're right. I'm ragging on Muslims.

How many of them have you been married to?

Get back to me on that "oppression" thing when that number reaches "one". You'll be familiar with their - and your - contractual obligations by then.

There is a reason I know this, and you are unaware of it.

Hint: I didn't learn it from internet posts or sensationalized news stories.

originally posted by: diggindirt

You owe me a keyboard...nah, I should know better...that tea it just showered with will drain right on through, won't it?

No. See, it's the sugar that will kill it. I recommend a garden hose - fully open valve. A fire hose tends to put just a bit too much pressure on the keys, and sends random messages across the internet. That can get embarrassing.

I had to hose one out one time in the shower (victim of a coffee spew), but then had to let it dry and drain for a solid week after that.

I found out they have these things called "flowers" on the other side of my front door during that time. Who knew?

Maybe you're lucky, and the keyboard has one of those "spill resistant" membranes under the keys. We'll know in about 10 minutes if it's there or not.

See, the empowerment thing makes the most sense to me too but I got this blank stare when I tried to broach that subject along the lines of self-defense being a useful skill. I was set upon with, "Why should I have to learn to defend myself?" This confused me. My parents taught me that I was ultimately the only one who could and would defend me. They taught me that there are crazy people in the world and a goodly number of those crazy people are bigger and stronger than me. Thus my response of, "Crazy people? Learning to "hit and run like hell" or "hit and maim" are useful skills in a world where there are crazy people." You can imagine how appalled they were when I suggested that the most effective self-defense skill for anyone is marksmanship.

We're from a different culture - I don't think the outside world is ready for that sort of awesome power.It will frighten them at first, when unleashed - have you ever seen a chimp transported back to Africa to be released back into the wild? When the cage is first opened, and he realizes there is nothing left between himself and the big scary world, and life is suddenly all on him, the initial reaction is priceless. They learn to manage that new awesome power, though.

Humans can learn, too. They're almost as smart as chimps.

Marksmanship? What WERE you thinking? Those were likely matriarchists - and patriarchal solutions will not work for them - they are programmed to automatically reject them. They are looking for kinder, gentler ways to destroy MANkind!

a reply to: Annee

Psssst.
You missed the sarcasm.
And, you think you know my opinion.
Which you obviously don't.

originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
a reply to: Annee

Psssst.
You missed the sarcasm.
And, you think you know my opinion.
Which you obviously don't.

I'm just a dumb blonde.

Whaddaya expect?

a reply to: Annee

LoL!
I don't think anyone is necessarily essentially dumb, stupid, or etc.
We all have our positives and negatives, tastes, drawbacks, sticking points, and failings.
And our minds are set up to reinforce existing cognitive frameworks.
If you believe in the Schema Theory of Cognition which I obviously do.
That's simply the way it is, and the implication is that most people honestly and truly simply cannot go outside their "box".
They can't see the point, they are "right" and everything they can see "proves it".

But that doesn't mean that some of the things they think aren't impressively stupid or etc.

I say all of that to say this, if you truly want to understand what people are trying to say, you need to try harder to actually understand it.
Make far less assumptions.

But, that is just my opinion.

originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
a reply to: Annee

LoL!
I don't think anyone is necessarily essentially dumb, stupid, or etc.

Or blonde. I'm a red haired, green eyed, Scorpio.

I really don't take these gender threads that seriously --- never the twain shall meet --- never have, never will.

I lived the experience, that is all.

a reply to: Annee

Funny thing is, you just kinda proved my point.
Thank you.

a reply to: nenothtu
Harrumph, in my family it was the womenfolk who were the most accurate shooters. Maybe that's why their menfolk held them in such high regard?

originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
Funny thing is, you just kinda proved my point.

ELIZA program. I'm half joking but totally serious.

Look at the difference in dialog structure between example A and say... diggindirt/LadyGreenEyes.

a reply to: diggindirt

Well, that would seem to be the safer course of action, all things considered!

Now I dunno whose scarier - you or Annee. I mean, sure, you may be able to shoot, but she's got that whole "red hair" and "Scorpio" thing going on! I have had two "red haired Scorpios" in my life in the real world, and both were scary. So far, that's a 100% scare factor.

Of course the crack of a bullet has a lot to recommend it, too - that scare factor HAS to be right around 100% as well, with a wider base of input data, so I'm sure you can see my dilemma...

To be perfectly honest, the fact that you're women, and feminists, pales in comparison for sheer scariness.

originally posted by: nenothtu
a reply to: diggindirt

Now I dunno whose scarier - you or Annee. I mean, sure, you may be able to shoot, but she's got that whole "red hair" and "Scorpio" thing going on! I have had two "red haired Scorpios" in my life in the real world, and both were scary. So far, that's a 100% scare factor.

But, I do it with a smile

Did I mention my Baby Glock? . . . With Laser.

originally posted by: Annee
--- never the twain shall meet --- never have, never will.

Oh but they have. You embody perpetual war, therefore that is what you will always find.

I lived the experience of them meeting, that is all.

originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd

originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
Funny thing is, you just kinda proved my point.

ELIZA program. I'm half joking but totally serious.

Look at the difference in dialog structure between example A and say... diggindirt/LadyGreenEyes.

Siri Knows ELIZA, and apparently thinks very highly of her - for example, Siri says she will vote for ELIZA, because ELIZA knows all.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: nenothtu
a reply to: diggindirt

Now I dunno whose scarier - you or Annee. I mean, sure, you may be able to shoot, but she's got that whole "red hair" and "Scorpio" thing going on! I have had two "red haired Scorpios" in my life in the real world, and both were scary. So far, that's a 100% scare factor.

But, I do it with a smile

Did I mention my Baby Glock? . . . With Laser.

There is just something inherently wrong with accepting a beat-down from someone smiling at you. It's disconcerting, which of course intensifies the effect and leaves one vaguely defenseless.

That's just diabolical! It's similar to the annoyance produced by a martial artist, all that yelling while they're whoopin' on their target! Careful! You're releasing tactical secrets of the Sisterhood!

Baby Glock? babies are so cute, aren't they?

Do you think that if you watered it, it would grow?

originally posted by: nenothtu
Siri Knows ELIZA, and apparently thinks very highly of her - for example, Siri says she will vote for ELIZA, because ELIZA knows all.

Birds of a feather.

If I had everyone asking me questions thinking nobody was listening I'd quickly know all as well.

originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd

originally posted by: nenothtu
Siri Knows ELIZA, and apparently thinks very highly of her - for example, Siri says she will vote for ELIZA, because ELIZA knows all.

Birds of a feather.

If I had everyone asking me questions thinking nobody was listening I'd quickly know all as well.

"Birds of a feather" was actually the first thought in my mind between Siri and ELIZA, but I didn't put it in the post because I thought it might be misconstrued.

The second thought in connection with them was "Stepford Wives".

ELIZA wants to know "how I feel about that".

Some poor NSA Analyst at Ft Meade is crappin' right about now, because she thinks we're talking in code.

originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd

originally posted by: Annee
--- never the twain shall meet --- never have, never will.

Oh but they have. You embody perpetual war, therefore that is what you will always find.

I lived the experience of them meeting, that is all.

I embody war? Or women in general?

I've been married for 20+ years. How about you?

originally posted by: nenothtu

Baby Glock? babies are so cute, aren't they?

Do you think that if you watered it, it would grow?

. . . with Laser.

I kinda, sorta, didn't mention the others in the safe. They didn't fit the story.