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Could you elaborate on the structure of this 'Underground'?
originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
I think I might understand the reasons for this quietness; many of those who contribute to ATS and also happen to be British, have had informal run-ins with the Underground of the British establishment...
Are you suggesting that there is fairly widespread knowledge in the UK, of unofficial and organised guiding forces?
...because they are aware of the level of control exerted over all sections of society by perpetrators and affiliated agents. I stress that the 'Underground control network' in Britain is one of the darkest open secrets this world has ever known.
originally posted by: Otley
James O'Brien is a brilliant journalist, LBC is doing some great work there, credit to their Editor James Rea for pushing the story
BBC 5 live was running an interview on friday with a guy who had been regularly abused back in the 70s/80s in London by what sounded like a similarly high ranking crowd in London..
Can't find the full interview but part of it is here
Which socio-economic groups are these? How do you know for definite that these recruitment methods are used? Have you personally witnessed them? You've spoken to people that have been subject to these attempted recruitment methods?
originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: Robert Reynolds
I know for definite that young people in certain socio-economic groups are actively recruited & directed in specific operations by certain types who are quite literally satanic. In fact those who practice a hedonistic or diabolic devotional lifestyle are headhunted due to congruence of belief system with those giving the instructions.
So you have enough tangible evidence, from a suitably large number of sources to be able to confidently state that nefarious guiding forces are regularly in action against people in 'key positions'? What are these key positions? Politics? Police? Factory supervisors? You've witnessed this or you've collected statements claiming such?
Yes, many people are aware of strange goings-on, but people in key positions are often made aware that it would be beneficial for them to simply 'Keep calm & carry on'.
originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
My initial thoughts on the continuation of involvement in this thread was simply to let it be, it's never worth stirring up mud with people who demonstrate clear bias from the outset. I figured eventually that I can simply add the following:
- It would probably take a three man team of PIs around a year to gather the requisite evidence for an initial hearing on the matter. Due to the sensitive nature of the material gathered, and the connections of some of those involved, if it even got to court it would be a closed door proceeding. What, therefore, can be offered up as satisfactory evidence on a forum having members who hold clear bias?
Besides which, it likely would never get past the investigatory stages anyway - again, owing to the connections of some of those involved.
I know my place, but I know I'm not alone in it.
Scotland Yard has been handed a document that contains names of 22 high profile figures, including three serving MPs and three members of the House of Lords, alleged to be involved in the suspected Westminster pedophile ring during the 1970s and 1980s, The Daily Telegraph reports.
Labour MP John Mann has spent months sifting through hundreds of reports from the public about the historic sex abuse cases and has now handed a dossier to the police that suggests up to five paedophile rings were operating at the heart of UK government, each them involving at least one MP.
Of the total number involved — some of whom are now dead and some who are still alive, but not active in Westminster — 14 are Conservative politicians, five are from Labour and three were from other parties. Overall, 13 former ministers are named on the list.