Jehovah’s Witness leader complains: Gay people are plotting to put everyone in ‘tight pants’

“Do you remember that many, many, many homosexuals are in the clothing industry and doing the designing,” he said at the time. “Don’t you know they love it when you’re wearing tight pants? Oh yeah, you chuckle. I don’t think it’s funny. I think it’s disgusting.”

You know .. I'm not defending, supporting, or advocating what he says but, unfortunately, he has a point.

What is the point? Not that there's a homosexual agenda persay, or that wearing tighter fitting clothes is bad for your faith. It's that like it or not, there is a progression in what I like to call "popular media" towards "Metrosexual" styles of dress for men. It also includes hairstyles and most importantly, 'Metro' personality and culture.

Being gay is becoming more and more "cool" among popular culture, especially youth culture. Not just having sex with men as a man, but specifically wearing your sexuality on your sleeve by dressing a specific way to denote your gayness, and acting in an openly flamboyant or feminine way. You gain cool points for being this way among the right people now.

In fact, if you were gay but one of the 'masculine' types that doesn't seem 'outwardly gay' via dress and behavior, you'd slip right under the Gaydar. No cool points for that guy, this is a sexual liberty movement remember? Be proud, let everyone know, maybe people will like you alot because you're so 'in season'. I mean, many of the stars in Hollywood and on the Top Billboards love perpetuating this whole new 'gay style' (metrosexual) of dress thing.

The big shots in Hollywood film production are all for it. Many of the big name producers and directors have hopped on this bandwagon years ago. Movie after movie about homosexuals, popular TV shows about homosexual couples like "Modern Family" (my girlfriend just loves soft and prim flamboyant metrosexual stars, they're apparently so cute and funny -- it's the new acceptable thing). It's hip. Comparable to Marijuana being legalized.. 'a taboo thing that is becoming more widely accepted, state by state'. It is definitely a bandwagon, and lots of people are aboard.

To summarize though, when you have this much open gayness on the TV, in the Movie Theatre, on Netflix, on the radio, etc, there's an undeniable trickle-down effect when it comes to style and culture. This is popular now, and I'm actually a little concerned just how lame it's going to get. Every major heart-throb male star from music or movies that girls swoon over is adopting the tight-as-hell pants, and other feminine attire. Skirts, yes, Kanye West wears a leather skirt.

I'm sure someone will say in reply to this, 'stop hating and let people do what they want'. I agree. I'm not attempting to stop anything from progressing into a worse direction. To each their own -- one of my favorite sayings. This doesn't mean I have to accept or like what is happening. I am entitled to my opinion. I can sit on the side-line while people do stupid things, telling them how stupid they are the entire time. That doesn't mean I'm actively trying to stop or sabotage what they're doing. Libertarian philosophy..

Am I threatened by Metrosexual styles becoming even more widely popular? My manhood isn't, but my mind is.

originally posted by: queenofswords
This is nothing new. JWs are supposed to dress in a way that does not excite sexual desire in public. It's based on being moderate in all things according to scripture. .

Since when is it moderate to trespass on peoples property, knock on their doors, disturb their privacy and ask them personal questions like "do you know Jesus"?

To me, that invasive approach to "witnessing for the Lord" is anything but moderate. It's rude, Inconsiderate and arrogant!!!

a reply to: olaru12

You probably don't remember the fuller brush guys

Anyway, have a conversation with them, learn about them and what they believe, look for common ground with JWs and Christians, broaden your horizons, or any faith for that matter, I have,

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: olaru12

You probably don't remember the fuller brush guys

Anyway, have a conversation with them, learn about them and what they believe, look for common ground with JWs and Christians, broaden your horizons, or any faith for that matter, I have,

Actually I do remember door to door salesmen, selling everything form encyclopedias to vacuum cleaners. I can cut them some slack because they were just trying to make a living; not arrogantly try and change my religious and philosophical view of the world or delve into my spiritual condition. That's no one's business!

And for that matter, I too have researched all types of religions including "witnesses" Mormons, holy rollers, snake handelers, etc. and in my opinion they are cults that have little to do with true Christianity.

From my personal perspective, I don't trust anyone prostelizing from a faith based, fear generating, guilt inspiring religion.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: olaru12

You probably don't remember the fuller brush guys

Anyway, have a conversation with them, learn about them and what they believe, look for common ground with JWs and Christians, broaden your horizons, or any faith for that matter, I have,

What does the Fuller Brush guys have to do with it? And Yes, I remember them.

JWs who knock on doors need to learn to accept a polite NO! Not interested. But, they don't. They are pushy.

I am not interested, and telling them I am not interested should be enough.

a reply to: olaru12


researching and befriending are two different things

a reply to: olaru12

So did the good Reverend not live during the 70's when people wore pants as tight as possible so that everyone could see their crouch bulge?

Apparently this guy isn't aware that fashion trends come in and out of style every 20 - 30 years (the 70's isn't the only time in history men wore tight pants on purpose).

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: queenofswords
This is nothing new. JWs are supposed to dress in a way that does not excite sexual desire in public. It's based on being moderate in all things according to scripture. .

Since when is it moderate to trespass on peoples property, knock on their doors, disturb their privacy and ask them personal questions like "do you know Jesus"?

To me, that invasive approach to "witnessing for the Lord" is anything but moderate. It's rude, Inconsiderate and arrogant!!!

Yep. No means no and that includes "no trespassing" or "no solicitation."

a reply to: Annee

I'm a X witness, was one for about 5 years in my thirties, lovely people, they were there for me when no one else was, brought me food when I was doing without everything, no food, no water, no electricity, no phone or car.

I never met a pushy one in fact they discourage that.
I'm sure there are a few exceptions to the rule.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: Annee

I'm a X witness, was one for about 5 years in my thirties, lovely people, they were there for me when no one else was,a brought me food when I was doing without everything, no food, no water, no electricity, no phone or car.

I never met a pushy one in fact they discourage that.
I'm sure there are a few exceptions to the rule.

I am X-Morman, lovely people.

Morman missionaries are suppose to except NO, be polite and leave.

So, we'll just ask everyone else.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

Apparently this guy isn't aware that fashion trends come in and out of style every 20 - 30 years (the 70's isn't the only time in history men wore tight pants on purpose).

For me it's about associating it with being gay.

Dressing modest is nothing new in religion.

Oh no!! What about the ladies, did he forget we wear tight pants too and dresses that expose our ankles and knees?!!!

Tight pants all the way to the ankles, how indecent. I'm going to ditch all my skinny jeans and replace them with turtlenecks and long skirts as to dress more appropriately for the Jehovah's Witnesses that I offend on the daily with my tight pants

“Better known as tight pants. They are tight all the way down to the ankles. It’s not appropriate. It’s not sound of mind.”

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a reply to: Annee

Yes, I believe they are, I don't know any personally, but I read the book

a reply to: Jennyfrenzy


The JWS I have known dress like everyone else, it's the holiness church that encourage long hair, no slacks for women, long skirts and high collars, long sleeves, I know a lot of them, not many left that are that ridged though.

I never obeyed their rules either, lol

When I was a witness I still celebrated holidays, I'm not good at obeying rules.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: olaru12


researching and befriending are two different things

That's true and I am perfectly capable of determining for myself, the type of people I want to befriend or associate with... and religious zealots are way down on the list.

originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
Tight pants all the way to the ankles, how indecent. I'm going to ditch all my skinny jeans and replace them with turtlenecks and long skirts as to dress more appropriately for the Jehovah's Witnesses that I offend on the daily with my tight pants

They couldn't care less what you wear. This was an admonition to the congregations. Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.

a reply to: olaru12

No one is allowed to know who is at the top of JW's so that they will not end up being worshiped so how is this true. Who would have told the story but another of the leaders...I doubt that.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

I have 2 friends that grew up JW and they both love short skirts, lol.

It's the few folks in the older generation that are out of touch with the trends of today.

I'm not good at obeying rules either lol.

originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
a reply to: Stormdancer777

I have 2 friends that grew up JW and they both love short skirts, lol.

It's the few folks in the older generation that are out of touch with the trends of today.

I'm not good at obeying rules either

lol.

Ha! The young Mormon girls, who chose to qualify for temple recommend, and wear the sacred garments (it's a choice), would buy them about 5 sizes too small so they'd be skin tight and short enough for shorts and short skirts.

Leave it to the young, there's always a way.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
a reply to: Stormdancer777

I have 2 friends that grew up JW and they both love short skirts, lol.

It's the few folks in the older generation that are out of touch with the trends of today.

I'm not good at obeying rules either

lol.

Ha! The young Mormon girls, who chose to qualify for temple recommend, and wear the sacred garments (it's a choice), would buy them about 5 sizes too small so they'd be skin tight and short enough for shorts and short skirts.

Leave it to the young, there's always a way.

Kind of like the Catholic school girls who would roll those skirts up as soon as they left the school grounds. Oh, to be young again.