Epic Stupid: Ted Cruz - "Net Neutrality is Obamacare for the Internet"

a reply to: Stormdancer777

Neither party wants net neutrality.

What is going to happen is both party are going to create a bill with the title "net neutrality" but with more holes than a slice of swiss cheese.

Net neutrality gave people an equal voice to the corporations and the goverment and neither party wants that.

Net neutrality is dead because the masses are to stupid to realize what it is and how successful and relevant the internet became when we had Net neutrality.

Unfortunately, Net neutrality lobbying groups dropped the ball when they named it "Net neutrality ". They should have named it "Americas internet" or "Patriot NET" something easy for the masses to swallow.

What? you are against Americas internet or the Patriot NET , you must be anti America. Sad but that probably could have made all the difference in this bill.

originally posted by: BritofTexas

originally posted by: Aazadan
You and I built it with our tax dollars and then GAVE it to those companies to charge us access for... after those telecoms were given billions to build a network, then pocketed the money and refused to build one.

Thank you for bringing it up.

This is the true reason for the Obama Phone.

And the Bush Phone before it.

And the Clinton Phone before that.

And the Bush Phone Before that.

And the Reagan Phone before that....

"We the People" have already bought and built the Internet.

IT IS OURS (que patriotic muzac)

Reagan phone... one could say “We built it, we paid for it, it’s ours, and we are going to keep it.” like something right out of a speech that is.

originally posted by: beezzer
I'm a pretty big conservative, evil, Tea Party jerk-face.

Cool!

Another bumper sticker.

I'm going to have to buy another car, I'm running out of room.

Obama's call for net neutrality spells trouble for Time Warner Cable-Comcast deal

finance.yahoo.com...

The fight for an open Internet just got a lot stronger, as President Obama waded into the fray and issued a call for utility-style regulation to limit the power of phone and cable companies. The president isn’t likely to get his way entirely, with strong opposition already coming from those industries and Republicans in Congress. But Obama's move also reduces the odds that regulators will approve Comcast's (CMCSA) $45 billion take over bid for Time Warner Cable (TWC). The Federal Communications Commission, headed by Obama appointee Thomas Wheeler, has been working on new “net neutrality” regulations after courts struck down previous efforts intended to prevent Internet service providers from discriminating against web sites and other online content. Without such protection, regulators fear companies that dominate delivering Internet connections to consumers will be able to thwart new services and stymie innovation. The FCC, which has received almost 4 million comments on its open Internet proceeding, isn't expected to take action until next year. "I believe the FCC should create a new set of rules protecting net neutrality and ensuring that neither the cable company nor the phone company will be able to act as a gatekeeper, restricting what you can do or see online,” the president said in a surprise statement on Monday. Cable and phone companies should be banned from slowing down or blocking web sites and services, as well as charging more to give some faster access to consumers, Obama said.

Behind Comcast’s truthy ad campaign for net neutrality
www.washingtonpost.com...

originally posted by: Aazadan
Reagan phone... one could say “We built it, we paid for it, it’s ours, and we are going to keep it.” like something right out of a speech that is.

And if any of the gutless wonders in the Democrat Party wanted to actually get elected, the could use it in a speech.

originally posted by: BritofTexas

originally posted by: beezzer
I'm a pretty big conservative, evil, Tea Party jerk-face.

Cool!

Another bumper sticker.

I'm going to have to buy another car, I'm running out of room.

Call it an early Christmas present.

a reply to: interupt42

What is going to happen is both party are going to create a bill with the title "net neutrality" but with more holes than a slice of swiss cheese.

No doubt.

a reply to: Aazadan

Do you have any idea how long it takes to download a program or file in nations that have a responsible internet policy? Here in the US we are near the bottom in terms of internet speed and that's on our wired networks where things aren't as bad. Have you ever compared our wireless networks such as cell phones to nations like Japan or just about anywhere in Europe? The difference is staggering.

I admit I've never been in Japan. Would you mind delineating this responsible Internet policy in foreign countries, and please compare and contrast for me? This is a serious question and not a snarky one. I am genuinely interested. Thanks

Anyway, I was really comparing network speeds of today with that of say 1997? Broadband vs dial up? Did net neutrality bring that?

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: BritofTexas

originally posted by: beezzer
I'm a pretty big conservative, evil, Tea Party jerk-face.

Cool!
Another bumper sticker.
I'm going to have to buy another car, I'm running out of room.

Call it an early Christmas present.

Cheers.

Here's one for you my friend.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

So how is government involvement in the Internet free speech? I don't buy it. Sorry. Especially seeing who is for it.

Oh another thing besides free speech that will be impacted is elections.

Will a grass root candidate be able to get the same access to their websites as the corporate sponsored candidates?

Will Comcast give equal access to the candidate that goes against their views?

Seriously their is no good that comes from undoing net neutrality. The internet was a freakin hit why have gov't screw that up and undo net neutrality which helped make the internet what it became?

What are you expecting to get from undoing net neutrality, what good can come from it?

Imagine how long it would have taken to get to 17 pages if it took 2 minutes every time you wanted to reload this thread?

originally posted by: AgentShillington
Imagine how long it would have taken to get to 17 pages if it took 2 minutes every time you wanted to reload this thread?

But with the amount of inane drivel that is regularly posted on ATS that is not necessarily a valid argument.

a reply to: interupt42

Seriously their is no good that comes from undoing net neutrality.

So you are saying we already have net neutrality? Then why the need for government intervention???? Someone else said this too. Please help me understand.

I just want to make sure that I haven't slipped into an alternate universe here ...

Y'all do realize that the President spoke IN FAVOR of net neutrality, right?

And you guys are ... supporting that?

.....

WHAT KIND OF HELLSCAPE PLANE OF EXISTENCE IS THIS?????

Net Neutrality might mean one thing to Internet freedom promoters but an entirely different meaning to the FCC. The idea or the notion of being able to decide upon "legal' or "illegal" content makes nothing about this neutral. Neutral as a word maybe a red herring to give one the impression that the law takes no side, prefers no winners or losers, just stands back as an outsider. Meanwhile numerous calls to "stop the hackers" and the "cyber terrorists" seem to fall on deaf ears. Like anything in life politicians and lawyers want more say over what happens on the net. This might as well be TARP for lawyers and the FCC. Think about it, were we clamoring for them to take control over the net to protect us from Comcast and ATT censorship? It seems to me that they spy on us without the right to do so, these companies help them, so as a result they want more control over these companies to be able to manage and control the data they collect. After Edward Snowden and the NSA why would anyone want the FCC to have anything to do with it? They already seem to imply they can steal your info that you make available and store it for later use for whatever purposes they desire....this seems to imply they want 1930's style control of the net so they can take us back to an era of fascism while claiming the openness and open source movement maybe a threat to our safety. While more transparency makes the FCC, Comcast and ATT less relevant...it also makes Insurers less relevant....so the rush to move people to a national security style health system and internet maybe to try and stop transparency and open source everything.....open source everything means the end of governments and eventually corporations as the "race to the bottom" for everything not just labor will take place. Companies and the Govt don't mind open source rendering middle and lower classes less necessary, but when it threatens the rich and their position as necessary to invention and discovery and problem solving, then they elect to use the govt to try and prevent their loss of control and secrets....it's ok for your secrets to be vacuumed up but the people that run this mechanism are trying to prevent the same from happening to them by making a set of rules for most people and a special set for themselves as the technocrats and bureaucrats.

originally posted by: bubbabuddha
...this seems to imply they want 1930's style control of the net...

How were we controlling the net in the 1930s? This was a little before my time.

originally posted by: Willtell
Obama is a fraud

On this issue he will up like a cheap camera.

The guy is an absolute weakling and phony

DO NOT DEPEND ON HIM

Very true if we want internet freedom join the fight against Citizen United keep in mind once the deed is done any party can use this as an advantage to stifle speech.

a reply to: Gryphon66

And the Patriot Act is all about being a patriot.

originally posted by: AgentShillington
Imagine how long it would have taken to get to 17 pages if it took 2 minutes every time you wanted to reload this thread?

I remember those days

originally posted by: Gryphon66
I just want to make sure that I haven't slipped into an alternate universe here ...
Y'all do realize that the President spoke IN FAVOR of net neutrality, right?
And you guys are ... supporting that?
.....
WHAT KIND OF HELLSCAPE PLANE OF EXISTENCE IS THIS?????

You seem to forget....



It's all part of Obama derangement syndrome.

If Obama made a speech praising Jesus, the next day the entire Right Wing would convert to Islam.