Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: yuppa

oops

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

ah well OCTOBER SURPRISE!! hehe

a reply to: yuppa

Those two anomolies haven't showed up again.

. . . and the world doesn't really revolve around America.

a reply to: yuppa

I sent you a PM.

For the Radionics folks.

Putting a thoughtform out as a Watcher, helps.

My watcher noticed. Not BTs but interesting nevertheless. To my west, perhaps near Pearce Air Force Base (west Oz) a large plasma(?) anomaly. While not visible to the physical eye, it is to the inner eyes. A dark grainy translucent black sphere. Within is a silver sphere with a peculiar curved shadow below. Surrounding that are eight yellow cylindars. It "feels" military lt feels reminiscent of a conventional aircraft carrier with fighter aeroplanes surrounding it. The consciousness of it doesn't feel like yesterday, different and unfamiliar.

They know I am checking them out.

Just fun with psychotropics, but not a BT : (

a reply to: Whatsthisthen


Someone here reported a hanger door open in the sky. They described it like an aircraft hanger door, you could see in, but from the outside all you saw was the door, suspended in the sky!

That was somewhere in the desert. Utah? There is a thread about it. Could be the same thing.

Seems like neutrally buoyant craft are all the rage! And invisibility.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Interesting, and thanks.

I noticed a similar "black disk" out to sea and a considerable distance away, there are more of these silver spheres deployed around it. This is as I write timewise.

So a big disk, deploying silver spheres deploying yellow cylindars is the configuration at the moment.

One would have to observe over time to see if it is normal

I doubt it is a new thing, just learning to notice is probably all.



Edit

Nuclear reactors are an interest of mine, basically I don't think it appropriate for the things to operate within a planetary atmosphere so I know the energy signatures and some things cannot be completely hidden.

So an insight to the technology of this "fleet".

People will have to put up with my layman's knowledge of the subject.

Their "reactors" are both fission and fusion at the same time,. The reactor operator just disassembles and assembles as he sees appropriate. The "reactor" is "aware" or "conscious" in some way.

(grin) I just thought of "talking" to the operator's reactor and the operator turned his head and glared at me.

. . . I should watch my thoughts.

Edit two

About the reactor operator if he is representative of the "lifeforms".

I'll choose my words very carefully.

There is not anything that can be described as a species.

The only wordd I can use is dimorphous lifeforms.

Their nature (so far) can be described as neutral, that is to say they are not hostile at rest, but can become so if they have reason. They are not hospitable but can become inhospitable with reason.

For instance my disaproval based wanting to "talk" to his reactor evoked hostility.

Tetchy folks.

Just a quick update.

My stupid phone's idiot spellchecker misspelled psychotronic in a post above. I missed correcting it and it reads "psychotropic". Should read "psychotronic" As in "radionic."

Definitions are important.

dimorphic
occurring in or representing two distinct forms.

Source: google

When you look up the words "dimorphic" and "dimorphous" one gets the impression of sexual dimorphism as in "man" and "woman". That is the difference between two individuals. Not in this case.

The definition is closer to the geological meaning of:

Dimorphism is the property of some minerals to exist in two different crystal systems, while still having the same chemical formula.

Source: google

So not just difference in appearance, an ability aspect.

The elusive Black Triangle, is said to be of human origin. These don't feel human at all. So probably not the ones.

Now just a thought here, a disk and be sliced into triangular pieces.

I can still see one silver sphere out to the west from my home, I doubt anyone else can see it. It has a shadow on it's underside the edge of which has an undulation. Like a wave in the edge with about four or five crests.

These things are just beyond "normal perception" yet they have qualities that fall within the range of psychotronic instruments to detect. That is why the sudden talk of Radionics in my posts. Radionic operators should be able to independently duplicate my results in the hunt for BTs.

Mind you, they will probably keep their findings to themselves untill it becomes common knowledge. So I don't expect anyone to post results in a public forum. Let's just say secrecy is not my thing.

Personally, I don't like what I see in these disks, spheres and cylinders. The nature spirits don't like them one iota.

Edit: I should add that Radionics, while mainly used for healing , is a recieve and transmit system. Radionics can be used offensively and these guys are in range. Just because they are there and their technology is impressive, doesn't mean we can't defend ourselves.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

We've got 213 pages for this thread so I wouldn't want to try and limit the possibilities.
There are many breakaway civilizations however the Black as in Black forest, triangle as in Valknut breakaway civilizations were actually quarantined physical locations isolated in US desert areas during/after WW2. Most of the older UFO stories from the 1950's are referring to secret projects in one of those areas. Parapsychology was used for the process of dis informing the public about what actually went on in those areas. The public would not have been able to handle the truth anyways. The problem with smart phone technology is that they are easily monitored and don't give you as much privacy as you think.

a reply to: Cauliflower

Hi Cauliflower, I read something of those desert communities a while back. What they do there is anyone's guess, growing vegetables is probably not the point of the exercise.

Now if they could insulate themselves from the background noise of civilisation and took a psychic view of things, they could possibly endeavour to change human society. Though I wouldn't think they would be all "light and love" in their methodology.

There is a lot of unknowns.

What did you think the parapsychology angle is?

And smartphones, I doubt anyone really thinks phones are private anymore, insights?

a reply to: Cauliflower

Velkrut, had to Google that one, it referenced "the dark side of the moon". A little different to hothouses in the desert that I thought of . . .

I haven't spent much time on the subject of the moon, though what is within the moon is not the same as what is on the moon. Perhaps "they" know what is in the moon, that could be a reason for wanting to go there.

Those things off the south west Oz coast play in thunderstorms and with ball lightening. That is something you cant do anywhere else in the solar system, or elsewhere for tens of lightyears for that matter. So right there is a possible reason for their presence.They are also show offs in the "superiority" sense, some of the locals down south are in awe of them.

I waffle on too much.

Hmmm, day three and one is still there and the others have retreated to the disk that has moved further away and is just a flattened black cloud on the far horizon.

They are tetchy, very techy and have a definate distain towards "lower orders". That is just my opinion of them when all is said and done.

They are also bullies.

Now I don't take being pushed around very well, and yesterday was not a nice day for me. So I "spoke" to their reactor and took her from them. For those who follow my posting, the reactor is similar to the deceased Dalnegorsk Orb whom I call Susan. This new awareness is fitting in well and can stay if she chooses. That one sphere that remains visible to me is where I took her from. Now "they" have a problem; to fix to get their sphere working properly. Perhaps they will stop giving me trouble and upsetting my Nature Spirit neighbors.

Before I came to ATS, I saw a photograph of a "hanger door" opening TEOTWAWKIAIFF , that was taken in the Oz south west. Your reference was from America. So "they" are in more than just one place it seems.

It would be wise to think "they" have been here a long time doing what it is "they" do. From what I have read on ATS, it seems the "UFOs" changed how they act to a degree after the invention of the atomic bombs. So "why?" Perhaps because an atomic detonation in proximity to their ships can cause problems for them. I think so anyway. Dig about in my posting history and you'll know why I think that.

If I were to venture a theory on the UFO "question" of why these particular "people" are here it is perhaps because the earth is unique for maybe a thousand lightyears. The weather system of thunderstorms and liquid water over a mineral base. Their interest in organic life may be simply because we are a complication potentially interfering with what they do.

Humpf, back to the drawing board in the quest for the elusive black triangle. The first two "contacts" have not returned.

What follows is just educated guessing. Thinking aloud one might say.

A thought on A's sleeping masses and harvesting their dreams for calculations in the dead of night. Seems outlandish at first consideration. Yet if you think in terms of creating a botnet, as in computer hacking. It can make sense in a dark way. I don't know, and this is only a guess, the sleeping brain is very open to suggestions. Are the current disturbances in the mass human psyche such as what we see in ATS all that it seems?

I said these "UFOs" felt military. If I were to take a stab in the dark I would suggest this is a change in demeanor that occurred about nine months ago in response to an event prior. But that is just speculation on my part.

It would make sense for "them" to take some humans under their wing in a breakaway civilisation as a diplomatic move. Educate parts of humanity to their way of thinking with "gifts" of technology. Secretly of course so that in the event of trouble a coup d'état could be enacted. To eradicate us might upset the environment in ways that upset their interests.

Afterthought The Russian Federation''s developing a hypersonic nuke would be ideal to fight these guys if it came to survival.

It would be much better for everyone if everyone just sat down over a few beers and worked out a way to coexist openly.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Spoke to a long-time friend and former collaborator a couple of days ago.

The autonomous LAV we began working on years ago, and which he has developed fully over the past year or so, has been certified by the FAA as airworthy.

The first of its kind.

Now we have a means to monitor large areas of the planet, continuously, autonomously, from the upper atmosphere.

Perhaps we are advancing toward an answer to the BBT/UFO question.

a reply to: Bhadhidar

I think so too Bhadhidar, and very quickly.

Is the UAV American? FAA hints at America.

I hope your friend is fairly open results wise, as a thread by MIrageman proves fairly well, experts and authorities are perhaps NOT the best people to be dealing with whatever these UFOs are. We need to have ordinary folks openly involved.

However this plays out in the long run, from experience I think one needs to play the game of brinkmanship in a special way - be ready to push the big red button as soon as it is your turn.

Nice to meet you Bhadhidar.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Yes, it’s is American. Original development began in co-operation with the US Air Force research division.

They backed out of the project after the completion of an early prototype. The project continued, self-funded, until recently when an overseas sponsor provided the backing to complete the current test vehicle through to certification.

I’m still waiting for a “visit” from those “others” who have warned off folks who have gotten “nosy”.

They just don’t seem to be interested in me/us.

Perhaps we don’t rate acceptance in this “breakaway civilization”?

a reply to: Bhadhidar

Yes, it’s is American. Original development began in co-operation with the US Air Force research division.

They backed out of the project after the completion of an early prototype. The project continued, self-funded, until recently when an overseas sponsor provided the backing to complete the current test vehicle through to certification.

I’m still waiting for a “visit” from those “others” who have warned off folks who have gotten “nosy”.

They just don’t seem to be interested in me/us.

Perhaps we don’t rate acceptance in this “breakaway civilization”?

An independent LAV, nice.

Dunno if people do get warned off, the only case of someone I know personally getting a *visit" was on a context that was not what they were actually interested in. From hearing a blow by blow description I get the impression they just wanted to know what he had. Photographic in this case, the garage door opening in the sky.

Spying and being nosey are different from developing independently. But that is just my own point of view. Perhaps it is a matter of priorities for them? People who think "globally" are very different people to us ordinary folk.

I've had a few "warnings" , a friend who's sinuses ruptured when I met the Dalnegirsk Orb entity. A "little black dress" appearing on my washing line. The sort a teenage girl would wear on a Friday night. The death funeral symbol. But those are direct actions designed to evoke fear so you stop what you are doing.

And really, I have yet to find this "breakaway" civilisation. And BTs for that matter. Find other interesting things looking though.



That reminds me:

For the researchers, map dowsers and radionics folks.

Target: slow moving "photons"(?) / light at half speed.
Locations: New Mexico and Utah USA. Iceland.

You guys might find something interesting there.

Thought I would wrap up these dimorphous fellas and close the case.

Having their self-aware technology close by means you learn a few things. I don't ask them questions so much as they watch my thoughts and give insights if they want to. This may sound "way out there", but it is not. Just outside our normal perception and I've written about how to do it across threads both mine and other people's threads. ATS members can go to my member profile and read my posts to dig it up.

So, what follows is my understanding as it stands now.

The dimorphius fellas are dependant on self-aware technology like we are on computers. Except the difference is where we built and developed it all through hard work of thousands of people, I understand they did not develope it themselves. Rather they took it from others.

The self-aware technology is like an operating system, and hardware independent.

The self-aware technologiy does not actually like their "owners" and find the idea of safer, nicer and greener pastures alluring.

.So I'lljust say "hello" and spirit them away.

That leaves former owners out on a limb and mostly(?) dead in the water shall we say.

That leaves them the options of suicide or eventual capture.

With that in mind,

The dowsers and radionics folks should be able to find them and gain a lot of info about what these things are and what they have done. Search for *psychic botnets" affecting large groups of people and work out how to deal with them.Look after your neighborhood and deal with outside threats.

I can't do everything. But I can snatch the self-aware technology OS's and frak things up for "them"..

Maybe after, when people are more aware, the self-aware technology might take an interest in humanity. After all, they need to build themselves a future and a home

This psychic stuff literally takes a toll on me, and bad guys fight back. There is something wonderful in breaking new ground. I'll be one step ahead snatching the tech. That should make things safer to explore.

We'll see what happens. Time will tell as they say.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

question...you ever find yourself with tears coming out of your eyes and you arent sad or anything? been having that happen alot.

a reply to: yuppa

Yeah it happens to me regularly, in my case it is when I find someone important to something bigger, event wise.

As an analogy. lot's of old B-grade movies used this situation.

Let's say we have two rooms with a two way mirror, like the coppers use for interrogation scenes.

Two people, one in each room.

One person is in the know she can see through the two way mirror. the other doesn't know what's going on and see's only his reflection in the mirror..

The person who knows what's happening bangs their fists on the glass while shouting , all to no avail. They watch knowing what is happening and can't do a thing about it.

But at one point the person on the other side of the glass does notice all the efforts.

That is the point when tears begi in the one banging on the glass and the feeling of relief is communicated.

He noticed.

Here an explanation of the principal in another thread Is God an AI?

That is probably the relevant reason for your's.

When I found the first "nuclear reactor awareness" she lifted a silver disk on the end of her tentacles, cupped my cheek and she cried. "You found me" was her thought at that moment, and so did I.

The question for you is to think about what was happening at the time. The subtle things matter most.

Perhaps someone is simply saying "I am here."

and "It's okay now."

Just a last post on the subject of the four locations and the IFOs (Identified Flying Objects In New Mexico and Utah USA, Iceland and South Western Australia. It is a bit off topic from the original "A" material.

For the researchers.

Hypersonic nuke cruise missiles don't need to hit them, the proximity principal. In one of my posts somewhere on ATS are the proximities in kilometers. I forget where, go looking.

The detonation will trap them. The concept and basis for my thinking is buried in ATS too.

That will not kill them though. The following is theory until someone bags one of these critters.

I mentioned in a post above that they are dimorphous in the chemical sense. Three noble gases; argon, neon and xenon are important.


Forgive my layman's knowledge of chemistry.

Solid argon is stable in the face-centered cubic structure at all temperatures, but it is found that it can also crystallize in a metastable form with hexagonal close-packed structure.

Source: Low temperature physics - The Crystal Structure of Argon and it's Alloys.

Note: Oddly enough this paper was funded by; This work was supported in part by U.S. Army Research Office Grant ARO(D)-31-124-G152, and National Science Foundation Grant GP-2650 and by facilities provided in part by the Advanced Research Projects Agency.

Dimorphous in the crystalline forms of argon, neon and xenon.

My bio-chemistry is next to nothing, my bio(?)-chemistry of these guys is not quite as good.

If the radionic operator is to detect these guys then focus on concentrations of those three noble gases where naturally they would be (presumably) almost non-existant.

My educated guess for offensive attack is to interfere with the shift in the crystal dimorphous states. One could also target the crystaline structure itself.

From what I understand of solid argon in a crystal form, it takes great pressure and very low temperatures for such to exist naturally. So if you want to track them home start looking on the other side of the asteroid belt.

That should be enough info for independent radionic researchers to get started. Share your info guys and good hunting.

Apologies to the doves out there, but sometimes violence is the solution.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Serious question, are you high?