Human alien hybrid given up fighting

originally posted by: tanka418

originally posted by: Answer
Oh I haven't misunderstood anything you've said. You are implying that she might actually be half-alien and that is completely, 100% ludicrous.

Actually...logic is kind of insisting that you have failed to understand...sorry. You don't seem to have taken any data of any kind into account...course , there isn't much data available, yet you insist that more is not required... Again, I know exactly what you are saying. EXACTLY. There is no misunderstanding. You think it's a biological issue and any sane person knows that it's not. My disagreement has nothing to do with failure to understand and everything to do with knowing that your statement is 100% false.

No, I'm not implying any such thing! I'm stating outright, that she may be a Terrestrial / non-Terrestrial human hybrid. Which is borderline insane. You're in no position to offer medical advice to anyone, whether psychological or physiological.


Now, IF you would be so kind: Why is this idea "100% ludicrous"? Because human/alien hybrids do not exist. No matter how insistent you are and how "awake" you claim to be, there is no such thing as a half-alien human being. Therefore, your idea is 100% ludicrous and your support for her mother's harebrained assertion is NO GOOD for her. If someone comes to you claiming that their dog is telling them to kill people, you don't encourage them to obey the dog.

Or is it that you think that you are absolutely unique in the universe? Don't pretend that my stance on human/alien hybrids has anything to do with my belief regarding extraterrestrial life. That's a monumental assumptive leap to make.

You pull out an idiotic statement like "practicing medicine without a license" in this thread? If someone comes to me claiming to be half-dolphin, I don't need a degree in marine biology to say with certainty that they have a psychological issue. This case is no different.

Actually, this case is vastly different! Only because you've deluded yourself into believing something that is not possible. The notion of a half-dolphin human being is just as absurd as the notion of a half-alien human being.

Regardless what you've deluded yourself into believing, human-alien hybrids do not exist. You are not helping anyone by supporting her mother's assertion that she's half-alien. You're clearly "not ready" to be allowed around the general public if you truly believe the insanity that is flowing from your keyboard.

And you are probably dong vastly more damage by insisting that we don't need more data. You are insisting that we mirror remain totally in the dark and try to understand something we can't see.

Sorry, but it would be you who is not ready...not ready for the reality of their own existence, not ready for the next step in Human evolution...not ready to accept the truth of themselves. Yeah, ok. Answer me one question: What evidence do you have that humans and aliens can produce a hybrid child? If there's a way to confirm, biologically, that she is a hybrid, it must have been confirmed before. So where's the data? Where are the previous cases? Show me something that indicates you aren't delusional.

originally posted by: Answer
Now, IF you would be so kind: Why is this idea "100% ludicrous"? Because human/alien hybrids do not exist. No matter how insistent you are and how "awake" you claim to be, there is no such thing as a half-alien human being. Therefore, your idea is 100% ludicrous and your support for her mother's harebrained assertion is NO GOOD for her. If someone comes to you claiming that their dog is telling them to kill people, you don't encourage them to obey the dog.

You make this statement like you know its truth, yet even science wouldn't be so foolish.

Please explain "WHY" it is not possible...

Yeah, ok. Answer me one question: What evidence do you have that humans and aliens can produce a hybrid child? If there's a way to confirm, biologically, that she is a hybrid, it must have been confirmed before. So where's the data? Where are the previous cases? Show me something that indicates you aren't delusional.

There are reported instances of 800 - 900 year old "deformed" skeletons fro Peru I think it is, that seem to show a non-terrestrial parent. There are several cases like this


There is the case reported by Peter Khoury about the recovered DNA of a non-terrestrial.

There are other cases...Google is your friend...

The core of this is that there is absolutely no biological reason for Terrestrials, and non-terrestrials to intermix...provided they are both Human...AND more importantly there are "Humans" on other worlds besides Earth.

Also, you should understand that what I believe is based solely on current science.

a reply to: Mirror

I suppose there are worse things to be then a human/alien hybrid. What I am saying things could be worse and you could have been a human/pufferfish hybrid, and then were would you be. You would be getting all stuffed up and full of air all over unimportant things, that were you would be.

But anyways, its like a known obvious secret that humans aint all exactly human. Every single one of us here on planet dirt are not the same thing, human is just a label like pepsi is a label. And really even the most educated and knowledgeable of human scientists would not be able to tell the different between chimp DNA or human DNA, if they were not at first told which was which.

In all your just a tiny person who seems to be obsessed with certain things and because of here childhood has been set into certain patterns and habits. I would say your pretty normal, and you just happen to be a born a bit off the heard, a bit of a black sheep. As for aliens and them bothering you, do as you will, fight them or dont fight them, it does not matter because the matter is all in you head, your the only one who gives some sort of meaning to it all, because frankly there is nothing special in any of us.

And DNA is not necessarily all that important, in fact most of it just old outdated code and records of what we used to be, trying to change something by changing DNA is just silly, its like trying to change history and time by changing the writing in history books, its purely superficial, that and DNA does not change who you are its just a byproduct of the change which produced you or your species. So whatever your about and whatever these so called aliens are about I do believe its all silly, if they do exist and operate as such, I shall call them the sillynouts, seems like a good name for an alien species.

a reply to: Mirror

You should get one of those at home mail in DNA tests. That way if there is anything "special" with your DNA, they'll find it. Most likely you'll discover you're 100% mammal, a human being.

a reply to: Mrs.Peony
Well technically on a biological level if a so called alien can mix with a human, then they would not be that far off from us. So really whats a human alien hybrid anyways. Take the duck saying, if it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, then its a duck.

So really, on what level would this whole hybrid thing even matter if there is no physical and mental distinguishable difference between the two? I take it if you put a so called hybrid and a regular human side to side, well whats the difference and would anybody be able to point to it out? It seems not likely. So again what exactly are we even talking about here? Probably just a duck of a different feather to sort of say. This whole thing makes no logical sense and all these specification and classification that the op and others say are not a discernible difference in anything.

originally posted by: MX61000

originally posted by: Unity_99
a reply to: MX61000

Yeah because they our science, eh?

no because our atmosphere is completely foreign to the one they come out of, they would have to be completely airtight enclosed. And besides the beings on other planets certainly don't wanna make friends with the current civilization...

From what I understand, greys are bots that are adaptable to all systems, mostly bots. They create hybrids and wear suits that deal with magnetism/gravity. And on that level, body suits are replaceable. Those closer to our level rarely get here, they would have to be brought here.

originally posted by: Answer
a reply to: Mirror



You should probably talk to a mental health professional, not an internet forum full of dingbats.

^^ This ^^

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
So really, on what level would this whole hybrid thing even matter if there is no physical and mental distinguishable difference between the two? I take it if you put a so called hybrid and a regular human side to side, well whats the difference and would anybody be able to point to it out? It seems not likely.

The difference between the two How about culture, history, evolutionary path(s)...If ET is so close to Terrestrials he can intermix; does that make ET human? Or is "Human" something reserved for those native or descending from a Terrestrial DNA line?

Could someone from Tau Ceti be called "Human" If he is close enough? How close is close enough?

Dogs and Wolves are the same species according to science; what do you think? Have you ever gotten close enough to a Wolf to become aware of the many differences? Prolly not...I have a 97%hybred Timber...he is huge! As tall as a great Dane, with the build of a German Shepard...31 inches at the shoulder and 140 pounds...he's been my friend since he was 8 weeks old, but where a dog is friendly, you won't ever get close to the Wolf, he will always be just out of reach. Yet they are the same animal...

So, yes there are differences, important ones; they should be recognized and revered...diversity for the win!

a reply to: tanka418

Your analogies are not apt. A wolf and a dog may be the same species, but then again so is a wolf and a chiwawa, but how many half wolf half chiwawas do you see around? None right! But considering that we do not know what an alien looks like, or is like, or anything really, how would you even know if anybody or anything may have alien genes? If it could bread with a human then yes they would likely be on the same pool of genetics. But so are wolfs and chiwawas, and lets say you get a wolf and stick them on another planet with a different atmosphere and gravity, but has all other essentials for life. Even the gravity alone would likely make it more different and a bigger difference between them then there is between a wolf and chiwawa here on earth.

Really the only way you would be a hybrid was if these supposed aliens are from almost exactely planetary environment as we are, and even then you would have to do some tinkering on a genetic level. It would not be breeding in the sense of wolfs to dogs and all the different types of dogs, it would be more like how Monsanto stick cockroach genes in there corn and other plants to make it resistant to there pesticides. On that level yes you would be able to so call hybrid humans, but that could literally mean anything from the physical differences obviousness, to something so subtle that it would make the Monsanto hybrid spliced plants seem like child's play.

Either way, if somebody from Tau Ceti comes and is able to breed with humans, then he or she would be human. But even if he or shes homeplanet was off in something as simple as gravity or even the types of plant life and trees or environment in its evolution stages was or is different then our evolutionary path in all of history then our planet was and is. If it is so, then it is highly unlikely that it would be anywhere near what we would know as human. Literally everything would have to be an almost copy paste job on both planets to be even close to similar in both biology or mental makeup and everything else you would be able to think. The chances of that are astronomical to impossible unless that is, we ourselfs and them are part of a bigger picture which specifically breeds like organisms, for whatever reasons.

So even if there are hybrids or people getting abducted and some alien species is experimenting in genetics, it would likely be more of a case of like I said before how Monsanto is putting certain cockroach genes in there spliced plants or other animals, and such. It would be on that level, so ya! What exactly do any of you mean by hybrid? Context is everything, and most of this stuff is taken out of context, by people who heard a story somewhere and somehow it got integrated into there mindset. Basically, I suppose you people just need to be more specific.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

Really the only way you would be a hybrid was if these supposed aliens are from almost exactely planetary environment as we are...

You are aware that astronomers estimate millions to billions of; not just Earth like, but Earth Twins in this galaxy alone. The probabilities of "Human twins" is also quite high. Yet, even so, there are necessary differences that may not make enough difference to prevent crossing, but will still be detectable to science.

In Earth culture there are stories, historical accounts, of very Human like beings visiting, sometimes mistakes for gods. These beings were also capable of crossing. If you look at a time line of male DNA (Y-DNA) you will notice a group of new male "lines", or haplo groups that occurred about 8000 years ago...just about right for the ancient stores...

If we look at the region of space where these "gods" supposedly came from; we find a "G-Class" star...like your Sun. This single star has a very high probability of supporting an advanced culture, as does Tau Ceti, and Zeta 2 Reticuli.

So...it is highly probable that there could be a species very Human like...but; does that make them "Human" too? They might not think so...and, there would still be very important differences.

a reply to: tanka418

Well the key phrase here would be "human like"

Second.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: tanka418

Well the key phrase here would be "human like"

Second.

What happened to: "if somebody from Tau Ceti comes and is able to breed with humans, then he or she would be human."?

Either "Human like" are Human or they aren't; either non-terrestrials are non-Human or they're not! And it doesn't matter how close they actually are.

a reply to: tanka418
Any and all theories are viable. But do you realize the scope and probability and minute details it would take to create even two almost exact species of a creature? Lets just say that you take a colony of humans now and you put them on mars, and lets we created an atmosphere on Mars and is liveable, give it a few generations and the colonists there would be in ruffly human shape and would still be considered human, but would not likely be able to survive back on earth or vice versa. Even something as small as the gravity difference between earth and mars would create an almost different species of human, not to mention all that other minute details which would be necessary for basic survival on mars which will have a huge impact on things.

So yes human and human like could also mean that they may resemble humans, but be nothing alike in almost every other aspect, and that would be in a copy and paste job on even almost exact similar planets and civilizations. If things were truly different, well you get the picture. Lets just say even those who are similar may end up offing off there respected genome and civilizations, if they were truly different it is almost a guarantee. So yes if there were space civilizations out there that are like us and look like us, it is a high probability that we were all seeded to be of the same stock to sort of say, which would mean we could be on not only a huge planetary sort of farm, but that would also be true on a galactic scale.

Human like could be taken to mean that they resemble humans in body type, you could even say that the depiction of gray aliens are human like, I mean sure they dont have genitals and have big eyes which can see in infra red and all other types of light spectrum's, and have a completely different mental aspect to them in how they think and operate, but they could be considered to be human like. Its just an expression that could be taken to mean a lot of things, and all those things can be related or understood on a level by humans. If they were really alien, then you would not be able to understand them at all.