Scotland Vote No In Referendum – Selfish, Scared People, Well Done!

My paper was blank on the back. I actually commented to my wife about it saying I thought there would have been some sort of mark or serial number but there wasn't. Her's was the same. After putting cross in YES box I folder my paper before putting it in the box. If there had been anything on the back I would have noticed and read it.

I wonder if the ballot papers are kept somewhere. Would be a simple matter to check through them and see how many blank papers there are, or do they all have numbers on them.

a reply to: uncommitted

And so it begins

EU exit would leave Britain with zero influence, says Barroso

This the same guy Cameron and the Bettertogether liars trotted out to tell Scots they wouldn't be allowed back into EU if they voted Yes

Now we get "Conservative Party chairman Grant Shapps said Mr Barroso was "out of touch" and an "unelected bureaucrat"."

Astounding hypocracy.

But this is just the start of the lies and bullying about to befall the English to keep them in line with elitist demands.

How does it feel to be told you are insignificant ?

I await to be entertained watching it unfold.

originally posted by: bigyin
But this is just the start of the lies and bullying about to befall the English to keep them in line with elitist demands.

Not just the English affected by EU membership though is it?
EU membership is a UK issue/question not devolved to member nations, and the UK member nations of course includes Scotland after the 'no' vote.

a reply to: grainofsand

Doesn't matter what Scotland votes for. We get whatever the English want.

originally posted by: bigyin
a reply to: uncommitted



EU exit would leave Britain with zero influence, says Barroso

I wasn't aware that Britain (UK) ever really had any real influence in any

decision made by the EU .... After all we have no say in our own borders, and

recently what wattage or power we can use to run our vaccume cleaners or

hair dryers on .... etc... etc... etc...

a reply to: eletheia


Does that mean you want to leave the Union ?

originally posted by: bigyin
My paper was blank on the back. I actually commented to my wife about it saying I thought there would have been some sort of mark or serial number but there wasn't. Her's was the same. After putting cross in YES box I folder my paper before putting it in the box. If there had been anything on the back I would have noticed and read it.

I wonder if the ballot papers are kept somewhere. Would be a simple matter to check through them and see how many blank papers there are, or do they all have numbers on them.

Well these ballot papers are illegal and are void.

"Inserting large quantities of fake ballots into national elections and referenda apparently happens rather regularly. In May last year, tens of thousands of fake ballot papers were seized during elections in Pakistan. A truckload of 100,000 unofficial ballots was pulled over in Nigeria during the 2011 presidential elections. Investigators subsequently found another million fake ballots. In June this year, more truckloads of fake ballots were pulled over during elections in Nigeria. In April this year, 82 complaints were made during Afghan presidential elections concerning "hundreds of illegally filled ballot boxes, election observers barred from doing their job, interference in polls by government officials, and lack of knowledge on the part of election commission workers."

Mass printing of fake ballot papers also occurred in Ukraine in 2010. In May last year, 350,000 fake ballot papers were seized from a printing house belonging to a local councillor during Bulgarian elections. In March this year, we learned that in Romania, the vice Prime Minister Liviu Dragnea defrauded a referendum by pushing the vote numbers to over 60% of the population, the threshold needed for the vote to be valid. He was indicted for coordinating a system involving 74 other people, local party executives and activists as well as the heads of local polling stations."

Oh, but they're backwards countries; that would never happen here in the civilized world!' Can we be so sure of that? Following a surprise win for the UK Labour Party candidate in the Scottish constituency of Glenrothes in a 2008 by-election, the result was contested by the losing Scottish National Party candidate. Repeated efforts to access the voting registry detailing exactly who had voted for who, the plaintiff was eventually told that it had "gone missing". Others noted a highly suspicious four-fold surge recorded in the number of postal votes for the constituency.

Basically these Ballot Papers we all put an X on were counterfeit. They are illegal!

it is a foregone conclusion that some elements of British intelligence rigged the Scottish referendum vote.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: wmd_2008
Cant Say I heard anyone being called a traitor, sure it happen but that would just be numbtys being numbtys. Feelings run high during such a debate but again there was very little actual violence or intimidation. Also it sounds as if your friends family just really didn't like him if he was binned based on how he vote.
Not sure of your logic that you think lowering voting was cynical yet you think young voters voted no?
Can you point to the SNP policy that was to drag us fully into Europe? Stay in Europe yes, join the euro no.
Finally can you clarify your comment regarding my background? Think non Scottish readers of this might find it interesting?

He was a she and she is a nurse and also commented on the fact that a fellow nurse said that the A&E dept in a very well known Glasgow hospital was like it used to be after an old firm game (Rangers V Celtic) with police having to be called because BOTH sides were being DH's and fighting in the hospital!

The reason I said the young voters ploy was cynical was because wee eck and the SNP thought that the 16-18's would adopt the braveheart stance and cry freedom, but it seems that may have backfired on him.

We eck stated that he wanted Scotland to join Europe

Alex Salmond has today claimed that an independent Scotland's (iScotland) EU membership terms could "be finalised in 18 months" i.e

Spain's European Affairs Minister contradicts Alex Salmond by stating a separate Scotland would need to wait at least five years for EU membership and sign up to the single currency

What about your assumption that all NO voters were pro-union.

the only thing better than the result is watching these small minded bigoted "yes" voters whine about it

slamming the no voters, saying it was fixed and calling scotland an 'embarrassment,' only thing this has done is brought out the arseholes

originally posted by: wmd_2008

The reason I said the young voters ploy was cynical was because wee eck and the SNP thought that the 16-18's would adopt the braveheart stance and cry freedom, but it seems that may have backfired on him.

I think he was depending on that.

The cavalier attitude of "FREEEEEDOOOM' to the majority of them!! LOL!

Although I am bound to admit I have seen some (a very few only) savvy ones

discussing politics on various TV programmes, most that I know, or have met

are totally disinterested in politics


I believe the school curriculum is now including finance and budgets, which I

applaud. I think the inclusion of politics would be a good idea too.

originally posted by: yeti101
the only thing better than the result is watching these small minded bigoted "yes" voters whine about it

slamming the no voters, saying it was fixed and calling scotland an 'embarrassment,' only thing this has done is brought out the arseholes

Yes voters are not slamming the No voters. And there is no need to call people that suspect something is up Arseholes.

There is evidence of Fraud in the so called Referendum. No need for name calling. All the Yes voters want is justice and a re-vote. It's pretty obvious this was a sham from top to bottom. If you read back in the thread you will see some of the evidence to back up our claims!

originally posted by: bigyin
a reply to: eletheia


Does that mean you want to leave the Union ?

Do you mean the 'European Union'?

As I'm not Scots I didn't have a vote on the Scottish/United Kingdom

referendum!

originally posted by: bigyin
a reply to: uncommitted

And so it begins

EU exit would leave Britain with zero influence, says Barroso

This the same guy Cameron and the Bettertogether liars trotted out to tell Scots they wouldn't be allowed back into EU if they voted Yes

Now we get "Conservative Party chairman Grant Shapps said Mr Barroso was "out of touch" and an "unelected bureaucrat"."

Astounding hypocracy.

But this is just the start of the lies and bullying about to befall the English to keep them in line with elitist demands.

How does it feel to be told you are insignificant ?

I await to be entertained watching it unfold.

Why do you keep making these remarks to me as though you believe how I would vote if given the chance on our continued membership with the EU?

a reply to: Tedgoat

hi , i haven't seen any good evidence. The worst one is the video claiming to show votes in the wrong pile. . If you check the procedures on how things are done there was no funny business going on. The official yes campaign in Dundee even clarified what was going on in the video but it seems that's not enough for some yes voters.

I could understand claims of vote rigging if the yes campaign were polling 55-60% lead the whole way through then suddenly were shocked at the defeat. I think many yes voters thought they had in it the bag even when all the polls showed otherwise. Maybe because they were noisier and more visible but the silent majority did their talking at the ballot box.

a reply to: eletheia


The European Union

originally posted by: bigyin
a reply to: eletheia


The European Union

Yes I do!

And for all those who think we cannot exist without the EU, we managed

very well without it for nearly 2000 years.

Germany lost two wars to Britain, but now has us by the 'short and curly's'

As for trade if you have the 'required/desired' goods, you will be traded

with.

Makes one wonder why thousands of foreign immigrants from all over the

world risk their lives on *unseaworthy boats, *under trains, *in refridgerated

transport, and I believe once (clinging to the undercarriage of a plane)

bypassing many other countries just to reach British shores ....

The country of CHOICE ??

originally posted by: Tedgoat

originally posted by: yeti101
the only thing better than the result is watching these small minded bigoted "yes" voters whine about it

slamming the no voters, saying it was fixed and calling scotland an 'embarrassment,' only thing this has done is brought out the arseholes

Yes voters are not slamming the No voters. And there is no need to call people that suspect something is up Arseholes.

There is evidence of Fraud in the so called Referendum. No need for name calling. All the Yes voters want is justice and a re-vote. It's pretty obvious this was a sham from top to bottom. If you read back in the thread you will see some of the evidence to back up our claims!

There is more evidence of SORE LOSERS!

originally posted by: bigyin
a reply to: grainofsand

Doesn't matter what Scotland votes for. We get whatever the English want.

Ah well, y''all had a vote to leave the UK and chose to stay, so if there is any vote on the EU it's probably better to work with England, Wales, and Northern Ireland now instead of just whinging about the English. Oh, and I am Welsh.

a reply to: grainofsand


hahaha

a reply to: grainofsand

EU is a much bigger issue - far more problems come from being in the EU than being in the UK. Lots of my friends who voted no think so too.

we need to stick togteher and sort the mess out or get out the EU.