Jim Foley beheading a Fake?

Reply to black tie

Well for starters...

Continue the hatred for Muslims so we can continue pills going their oil.

Destabilize the Arab world so no power grows up to be a threat to Israel.

Continue pumping money I yo the defense sectors that rule the military industrial complex.

Keep Americans in perpetual fear so their freedoms can continuously be stripped in the name of security.

Just to name a few.

AAC.

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

Yes, you film him doing many scripts, and many trips to the desert, once you have the clip you want for the internet, you behead him and edit it together, that's why the fades, and the time it takes and how gruesome it is would not do any favors for public relations.

It's Abhorent, and thankfully only a sub culture of whats going on, many different factions are involved some more extreme than others.

sometimes i wonder how these people sleep at night?

Q

Seriously OP?

You realize the media outlets edited out the bad part right?

ISIS uploaded the video in its entirety showing the ENTIRE beheading blood gurgling and all to Twitter. The video was removed and the twitter account was shut down. But many people saw it before that happened - the media is the one who did the editing.

FFS you people think everything is a fake. Why on Earth would ISIS fake anything?

There are literal HOURS upon HOURS of executions from them on Liveleak - showing the entire thing.

originally posted by: lightedhype
Seriously OP?

You realize the media outlets edited out the bad part right?

ISIS uploaded the video in its entirety showing the ENTIRE beheading blood gurgling and all to Twitter. The video was removed and the twitter account was shut down. But many people saw it before that happened - the media is the one who did the editing.

FFS you people think everything is a fake. Why on Earth would ISIS fake anything?

There are literal HOURS upon HOURS of executions from them on Liveleak - showing the entire thing.

Sorry nope. Even media people said the video was uploaded edited. If you can prove otherwise, I'm open for reconsideration.

But just cause you think it was edited from original version doesn't mean it was. In fact, all evidence I've seen says it was edited by ISIS.

AAC

a reply to: Quantum_Squirrel

Where did you get this info about they filmed many versions?

AAC

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

I like how you romanticized them thought.

Get outta town!!

I'm not romanticising anyone!.......do you really think that ISIS are incapable of changing tactics?

There ranks are being filled more and more from people from the west....the guy from ISIS that spoke on this video was obviously a British person, a Westerner.....why do you think it incomprehensible that he is using Western tactics to further his/ISIS cause?


Romanticising my arse!

You bring up valid points and share similar sentiment as me. It stinks of BS. I noticed that little rinks dinky knife too, I always thought beheading with a machete was actually a tradition (for how disgusting that is).

What makes this work is simply get something so appalling no one will question, you know, like 911.

originally posted by: AnAbsoluteCreation
a reply to: Quantum_Squirrel

Where did you get this info about they filmed many versions?

AAC

Its a hypothesis, just as your opinion is. It would also explain why James Foley was acting in the way that he was.

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

Before I even saw this thread. I was thinking the same thing.

a reply to: flammadraco

But since you have no evidence it was shot humorous times, you're only left with the face value. That He was oddly cavalier.

I don't claim to know the truth. But knowing what I know about operation Northwoods, US Liberty, 9/11 evidence, and what freedoms that were taken from us by the war on terror.

We need to recognize that the government is not for the people by the people anymore.

I challenge everyone to pretend to be a conspiracy theorist for 30 days. Do as a conspiracy theorist would do for 30 days. Once you've open your mind to thug reality, after 30 days everyone will hold more doubt about the state of our reality.

AAC.

The question I have for the OP is. Who faked it and why?

I don't think it's fake. They may not show the actual beheading. But they do show his body and head at the end.

I've seen enough of the real and very graphic beheading videos to know his behavior is normal.

Most of the beheading videos I've seen have used a similar knife except for the Mexican drug cartels using a chainsaw.

It's not how big a knife is but how sharp it is. Just ask OJ Simpson.

I agree with others who've said the reasons for not showing the entire beheading are to reach a broader audience.

If the video was too graphic mainstream websites and other news media outlets would not show it.

Retaliation for US airstrikes was the reason given. This seems like a valid premise.

The reasons why someone would fake this is still unclear to me.

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

I did not watch the video. I did not want that image burned into my mind. I know my limits. I was told it was gruesome, a friend showed me one beheading video, and I still to this day get SICK thinking about it.. ugh.. and that was 5 years ago, and still get sick even thinking about it. I can't watch it, I won't. For my own personal reasons. I hope that does not make me seem ignorant.

I can say this tho, From your OP, it seems very likely this could have been staged.

From what I know. USA have directly armed ISIS,ISIL. Fragments of the US government have funded them.
Private Bankers are funding BOTH sides to this.

There is more to this than meets the eye, I absolutely agree. This is building up to something. I can just feel that.
From all of the whitewash we are given on the MSM, anyone who does not look past the MSM will find what you say to be absolutely crazy, tin foil hat stuff.. IT is NOT. It holds much weight to me personally.

As I feel the whole thing is a sham.
Sure these people are REALLY out there hurting people, death is going on, in waves!
We think we grew past ritual sacrifices, nope, we just put a new spin on it, and increased that BLOOD pool to what ever Gods they are bowing down too.. My own thoughts there...

But ISIS is and have been funded by elements of our own government. Funded by Private Bankers.
They got their hands on all our hardware. And some just claim.. Opps that was an accident.
Yeah right.. Not buying it.
As we have CIA–al-Qaeda controversy on the table. CIA directly evolved with this. And ISIS is just their BIG brother.
Some low rank members of ISIS may not even be aware that they made a deal with the DEVIL!
They made a serious deal with the REAL evils of this world, and will be wrought, sought out and destroyed!
Something in the background here, with these freedom fighters making deals with the USA, then back out on their part.. Then we come in and KILL them all. Kill their families their friends, burn their towns, cities, industry. When you deal with the devil you get BURNED.

Thanks for posting this thread!

I just have empathy to all people here, and the pain and suffering of all is coming to a boiling point.
A big percent of us are sick and tired of this BS. And it is pure Bull.
Thanks for exposing one side to this.

originally posted by: MagicWand67
The question I have for the OP is. Who faked it and why?

I know its hard to believe, probably about as hard to believe in 2001 that "Al-Qaeda" was manufactured by the CIA and other various agencies from the land of Saud. Osama Bin-Laden was trained by the CIA and ISIS is nothing more than Al-Qaeda 2.0 because Al-Qaeda 1.0 has gotten tired on the ears of westerners.

The goal or the "why", is to let them build and form a hive (preferably in Syria) so we can go in once and for all and claim what is ours....Damascus.

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

Well my first reply should be addressed to you don't ya think?
I mean yes I'm agreeing with you, as demonstrated by my
running off at the mouth inciting the opposition at the same
time.

Did you want me to just say, I agree and SHTFU?
How is it I can't agree and reply to you at the same time?

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation
Just had to let you know your dead on this guy is probably working for them the video is edited cause they have Americans just as tech savvy as us working with them Isis is the same as al Qaeda so just remember they are using this bs to take your eyes off of ferguson not to mention the paid provocateurs are 100% out there i just watched m.youtube.com... and it's obvious to me thAt this is gonna get ugly. Check out the other thread on the paid shills in mo. This # isn't even important as I have known all along it is fake when I pushed play the video screamed fake.

a reply to: randyvs

It was jet a tad weird. No offense. But you replied to me bashing someone's belief of official story. But I started thinking maybe you were bashing me not believing official story. Enough said.

AAC

originally posted by: PrettyPicasso
a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation
Isis is the same as al Qaeda

Exactly

originally posted by: AnAbsoluteCreation
a reply to: Quantum_Squirrel

Where did you get this info about they filmed many versions?

AAC

Yes i was just speculating on why he may have looked relatively calm and willing to say these things (some posters asked this question), that could have been one of many takes and the bit at the end ( i have only seen the edited version) could have been another date.

Q

a reply to: MagicWand67

Who faked it? Western interest groups.

It is not so far fetched, it's happened all the time... Here is just a small list.

1. In the 60s, the CIA sponsored a Harvard study where undergraduate student were humiliated and subjected to “brutalizing psychological experiments”. The student who had the worse reaction to the experiment was Ted Kaczynski who later became the Unabomber.

2. In the early ’80s the CIA helped facilitate the widespread sale of coc aine in poor Los Angeles neighborhoods to help finance the covert war against the Sandinistas in Nicaragua.

3. Gary Webb, the journalist who wrote CIA contra-crack story of the 1980s was ruled to have died from suicide (2 gunshots in the head)

4. In 1954, American CIA overthrew a democratically elected Guatemala government for the United Fruit Company.

5. In a CIA program called “Operation Midnight Climax”, Prostitutes were enlisted by the CIA to lure men to ‘safehouses’ in San Francisco where they were administered '___' without their consent. CIA Agents would then watch them have sex with the prostitutes through 2-way mirrors.

6. In 1953, a US Scientist named Frank Olson was administered '___' without his knowledge as part of the MKULTRA program. A week later, Olsen ended up dead. The CIA claimed Olsen jumped from a hotel window, but later paid the family $750K and a second autopsy revealed he was likely assassinated.

7. In 1963, a CIA-funded psychiatrist, Dr. Ewen Cameron managed to completely wipe a woman’s memory by using electroshocks and hallucinogens over an 86-day period.

8. The CIA secretly spiked the bread from a bakery in the French village of Pont-Saint-Esprit with enormous quantities of '___' as part of its cold war mind-control experiments. A case of mass hallucinations and insanity ensued

9. In 1962 the CIA tipped off South Africa’s intelligence service about the location of Nelson Mandela, leading to his arrest that put him in jail for 27 years

10. A CIA handbook taught torture methods, and stressed the importance of psychological over physical torture. The threat of inflicting pain triggered fears more damaging than the pain itself, because people often underestimated their capacity to withstand pain.

11. The CIA had a plan to drop gigantic condoms labeled “Medium” into the USSR to convince Russian women that Americans were more virile.

12. Under Operation Northwoods CIA committed genuine acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had become communist under Fidel Castro.

13. In 2003, a German citizen was kidnapped by the CIA and beaten, stripped, violated and tortured until they found out they had the wrong guy.

14. Mohammad Mosaddegh was a democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran who was overthrown by CIA in 1953 for having the audacity to nationalize the Iranian oil industry by seizing it from the hands of the England and USA.

15. During college, Journalist Anderson Cooper spent two summers as an intern at the Central Intelligence Agency. Although he has no formal journalistic education, he opted to pursue a career in journalism rather than stay with the agency after school.

16. When manufacturing the A-12 Blackbird aircraft (built to spy on the Soviet Union), US titanium lacked the purity to cope with high speed flight. The only known titanium pure enough was in the Soviet Union, which the CIA managed to procure covertly and import to the US to produce the plane

17. The CIA, in South Vietnam, in a program called “Operation Phoenix,” secretly, without trial, executed at least 20,000 civilians, who were suspected of being members of the communist party.”

18. In 2013, the CIA publicly acknowledged the existence of Area 51 for the first time.

19. The CIA shut down access to the 23rd highest mountain in the world for nearly a decade in the ’60s because they lost a nuclear powered missile detector in an avalanche

20. CIA used Viagra to bribe Afghan tribal leaders.

21. During Operation Mongoose, the CIA, in an attempt to embarrass Fidel Castro, tried to place thallium salts in his shoes, which would have caused his beard, eyebrows, and pubic hair to fall out.

22. After WWII, the CIA recruited Nazi war criminals, who had worked on mind control/brainwashing techniques in Germany, to assist them with their own mind control experiments on unwitting US citizens.

23. During the late 1950s, U.S officials allegedly made contact with a young Iraqi named Saddam Hussein, who then became part of a CIA authorized squad tasked with carrying out the assassination of then-time Iraqi Prime minister Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim.

24. In the ’80s, CIA analysts put together a 20-part series detailing what would actually happen if the events of Tom Clancy’s “The Hunt for Red October” really took place. It’s now a CIA insider classic, and available for the public to read (Page 180).


AAC

a reply to: Argyll
Okay. I'm sorry. You're not romanticizing.

AAC