State of Emergency Declared in Ferguson - Curfew from 12 am to 5am - Now National Guard

a reply to: loam

Damn so it was gun shot, did he say police shoot ?

a reply to: Rosinitiate

Good point.

I like to ask those sorts of questions because it helps me formulate my opinion with different viewpoints.

Thanks!

Did he just say the reaction to the group tonight was not related to the enforcement of the curfew??
I just turned to the presser right as he was saying it.

ETA:

Says armed individual holding a hand gun prompted their response. Also confirms a shooting victim.

So he is saying they responded to this, but yet they were staged before that. Also they said they saw a man in the middle of road with a pistol? We were all watching this live, could we have missed that?

I swear, he looks like he's about to fall out! He's got that heavy-lidded look that people near exhaustion/collapse get.

Ok. Shooting victim....shots fired at police car...and guy with a hand gun.

But in what order relative to the police action?

No evidence of that in the live feeds and hard to verify from the free speech zone.

a reply to: Sremmos80

I don't get how his logic works. The man needs sleep. Soon. That's all I can say.

Prior to that he had said the initial police tactical response was due to 'intelligence indicating' people on the roof of the BBQ place looking like they meant to ambush police enforcing the curfew.

Somehow, that translates to being unrelated to enforcing the curfew. Yeah... Makes sense.. somehow.. I guess.

Didn't the BBQ raid happen at the end of the Vice feed?

a reply to: loam

Ya this is not adding up....
So they just so happen to have this huge force ready to go, but they were responding to these shots fired, or to people being armed.

And all this, 'Well we don't have any time lines to the calls and intel that we received."
This ridiculous, I hope they have some padding for where they are falling down backtracking here.

originally posted by: FreeQuebec86
OMG"..... a police shoot a guy tonight ???

Capt. Johnson said that he did not know who shot the guy this evening and very clearly stated that he did not know if the man was shot by police or another protester. He was very clear on that point.

originally posted by: Wrabbit2000
a reply to: Sremmos80

I don't get how his logic works. The man needs sleep. Soon. That's all I can say.

Yeah, he is exhibiting all of the signs of exhaustion. I feel for him. He's the PTB lacky on scene. He was supposed to be the savior of the situation and that all changed today with the Declaration of Emergency.

a reply to: Iamthatbish

The New Black Panthers are not the old Black Panthers. Totally different. Some of the old Black Panthers have openly denounced them and said that the new group is not affiliated and does not represent what the old group stood for.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Well, I had multiple feeds open but both the Tim on the Vice feed and AJ's crew were aware of the possibility of guns so were back a bit. We may not have seen it at all despite the streams. Pulling out a gun would provoke a response.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Yeah. It's not adding up at all. Literally the guy just asked and got it out of him that they moved in BEFORE shots fired based on intel that they have no proof of nor found any evidence of.

Its always a set up. That's how the man brought the original Black Panthers to their knees. Even used drugs. The govt is simply evil, they don't care about people. We the people are nothing to them!!


a reply to: Sremmos80

originally posted by: Iamthatbish
I want a peaceful revolution. I'm a vegan sue me.


a reply to: Rosinitiate

I want chivalry and honor to mean something. I want people to embrace the betterment of mankind. You only need to look around to see what we are capable of both good and bad but the bad far out weighs the good. You know what they say, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Someone who leads shouldn't be predisposed to certain weakness of the mental faculty, yet almost all leaders are maniacal psychopaths. Leaders she be chosen by those who self sacrifice the most not who can obtain the highest campaign dollars.

The biggest and easiest way to change our direction is change how leaders are chosen (money out of politics is a great start). You don't even have to change the basic tenants of our constitution.

a reply to: WhiteAlice

And how were they aware of the possibility of guns? Who brings a gun and then tells everyone? Provocateurs.

a reply to: kosmicjack

I see that too. I think the Captain looks like a decent guy maybe doing what he has to, to keep his job. The chief though.. I don't see and honest person, at all. That's just my opinion, of course.

originally posted by: ikonoklast
a reply to: Iamthatbish

The New Black Panthers are not the old Black Panthers. Totally different. Some of the old Black Panthers have openly denounced them and said that the new group is not affiliated and does not represent what the old group stood for.

I am aware. I posted earlier about this and was moded and deleted. The NBPP makes me nervous

Intelligence? Sounds like our local police went from Andy Griffith to CIA operative.

"Tear gas not directly related to the curfew" is just a convenient out.