Russia Says It Chases Away Apparent U.S. Submarine in Barents Sea

Russia Says It Chases Away Apparent U.S. Submarine in Barents Sea

MOSCOW—Russian state news agencies said the country's navy claims to have driven away a submarine believed to be American that entered Russia's northern waters.

The reports on Saturday cited an unidentified representative of the navy's general staff as saying the incident occurred on Thursday in the Barents Sea, which lies off northwest Russia and is home to the navy's Northern Fleet.

The reports said the fleet sent several vessels and an anti-submarine Il-38 aircraft to drive the submarine away.

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Russia Forces US Submarine Out of Boundary Waters

MOSCOW, August 9 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's Northern Fleet's anti-submarine forces have detected and forced out a US submarine from Russian boundary waters, a high-ranking source in Russia's Navy told RIA Novosti Saturday.

"On August 7, 2014, the patrol forces of the Northern Fleet detected a foreign submarine, supposedly a US Navy Virginia-class one, in the Barents Sea. A seaborne anti-submarine group, as well as an anti-submarine airplane Il-38, was sent to the region to search and track it down," the source said.

The Russian navy forced the submarine out of Russian waters after a 27-minute contact.

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Russian False Flag Op? Or could it be related to this?...

Russian nuclear bombers were spotted flying near Alaska this week. The bombers were escorted by fighter jets, floating just outside of U.S. and Canadian airspace. This is the second such sighting since June, sparking the attention of American military jets.

Major Beth Smith, of the U.S. Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), has said "Over the past week, NORAD has visually identified Russian aircraft operating in and around the U.S. air defense identification zones." There have been about 16 Russian forays in the Alaskan and north Canadian area in the last 10 days.

It is not entirely uncommon to see Russian planes in this airspace, however, the increased number of such planes seems to be triggering some concern amongst the aviation military community, particularly given the increased tension in Ukraine. Smith referred to this number of forays as "a spike in activity."

Smith noted that these were training missions, though a spy plane and anti-submarine plane were spotted among the bombers. However, another defense official told the Washington Free Beacon they believe this is more than just a training flight. The official stated " trying to test our air defense reactions, or our command and control systems. These are not just training missions."

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There is a very dangerous game of cat-and-mouse going on right now between the US and Russia and it's not being openly discussed to the American public. I believe it's only a matter of time until one or the other goes too far resulting in dire consequences. Play with fire and you will get burned.

a reply to: LrdRedhawk

Awesome. Sounds like the Cold War part II. The military industrial complex loves it.

WEll the American Sub did its job, Kind Of. It got into the secure waters, but was detected, at least it didnt get into too much trouble. I would say this is happening almost every single day, by at least one side or another, can you imagine how many times a russian sub has been off the American coast, and not been detected, goes both ways. If I had to guess, the americans are syaing look at us, we can get into your waters and get right up to your Russian Fleet, And probably let them know as they were leaving, smell my underpants suckers

this was posted the day before the plane was shot down...

This is the same thing that has been going on for a long time now. Every so often an American skipper makes a mistake, or the Russians get lucky and catch them, and they chase them until the US boat can sneak away. The Russians used to do it to us, just not with as much success. American boats have always been quieter than Russian boats.

Brings back memories of the old Gatekeeper ops.

Sitting at the bottom of their harbors.

Fun times.

a reply to: bg_socalif

I enjoyed reading about the wire tapping ops that they pulled off. Now that was impressive as hell.

Sometimes they play games to test the detection threshold of Russia's military. Then retreated to international waters. Russians used to do that too, in the straits around Florida. In the Soviet era they would never have acknowledged the presence of US subs in those waters, they would not allow the US to know at what point they could detect one of our subs. The fact they did this time strikes me as a PR gambit by Putin to appear stronger after the embarrassment of seeing pro-Russian forces losing ground in the Ukraine, and the backlash in the EU against his aggression there.

a reply to: LrdRedhawk

It wasn't a U.S. boat. Otherwise they wouldn't have known it was there in the first place......

a reply to: nwtrucker

US boats have been caught in the past. Leave a periscope up a hair too long, run too shallow, etc. They make mistakes just like everyone else does. They're just better at this than most.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Yep, I know, Zaph. It looked like a trash talk thread so I obliged them with the appropriate response..

We get this off the Russians aswell in uk a lot until the RAF send the jets in

Checking our response times and that

Is their airforce as good as ours and the Americans??

a reply to: Thefarmer

Yes and no. Western air forces have better training, Russian missiles are slightly better, especially their air launched missiles carried by their bombers. But at the same time the US legacy fleet is showing its age, and is limited in what it can do anymore.

a reply to: Zaphod58

What about our euro fighters? And typhoons or tornados? There supposed to be the most advanced fighters in the world aren't they

a reply to: Thefarmer

They're right up there, which certainly would help in the event of a major war. They're not limited so that's a huge advantage.

a reply to: Zaphod58

That's good to know cheers pal

from what i read in its proper context ,it appeared to be an american vessel ,but any one who knows about naval warfare would know signals get spoofed,and that is why they stated appeared because the russians know this to ,this could have been uk ,more likely france....
infact france is my best bet , why because there a member of the eu with growing sanctions between russia and the eu,and nuclear class subs,maybe the eu thought they could ramp up the tension between the usa and putin ,but what really gives it away is they got caught...so french it is

They weren't using their best stealth ship for this that's for sure.

Or a rookie-level mistake. Who's to know.