US Invents Reports of Russia Attacking Ukraine Bases

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

LMAO @ WTF is shaggy from ICP? Grasping at what straws?

Not my fault that you use that as your Avatar.


At any rate:

the Neo-Nazi party that supposedly runs the Ukraine gov't. is only a couple of people also your separatists were not even liked when they were terrorizing the good citizens of Ukraine.

GTFO!












Please explain this link:
Ukraine conflict: 'White power' warrior from Sweden

Seems damn near impossible Mr. ICP

To anyone unsure about true events in Ukraine, I would recommend this video:

www.liveleak.com...

a reply to: SurrenderingAmerica

Ukraine conflict: 'White power' warrior from Sweden

Do you mean this one...

"It was not an easy decision to make," Skillt said when Fria Tider spoke to him over Skype. His former employer, also a personal friend, was not happy when Skillt suddenly quit his job to go to Ukraine. Skillt said he went anyway because of a sense of solidarity with the Ukrainian nationalists. “"Nationalists have died on the streets of Kiev,"” he recounted. “"And I was able to help them. That is more important than my personal well-being.”"

Skillt is 37 years old and has been involved in various Swedish nationalist groups for more than a decade. Between 2002 and 2010 he was active in the National Socialist organization Svenska motståndsrörelsen (Swedish Resistance Movement). Today, he is a member of a small, nationalist political party, Svenskarnas parti (Party of the Swedes), but holds no official position within it. He says he is no longer a National Socialist and describes himself as an “ethnic nationalist.” "“You are born Swedish,"” he explained. "“It's not something you can become."”

www.friatider.se...

And you do understand just because someone is a nationalists it doesn't make them a neo nazi, but I find this interesting...

As to his political views, Mr Skillt prefers to call himself a nationalist, but in fact his views are typical of a neo-Nazi.

So his views are typical of a neo-nazi...so that automatically makes him one, Gotcha.

You do understand that the headline is sensationalized to get more views...Just like it does with ATS.

Not impossible if you know what to look for.

LMAO @ WTF is shaggy from ICP?

If you have to ask then there is no need to explain it.

Mr. ICP

Never said I was, but thanks for the compliment.

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

To anyone unsure about true events in Ukraine, I would recommend this video:

How come when these so called truth videos are posted there are none of the separatists storming police stations such as this one...



SO essentially your not showing the truth, but just a one sided version of it...why?

And how come stories like this don't get added to the truth...

Hanna, a pro-Ukrainian activist, told Amnesty International how she was abducted by armed men in the eastern city of Donetsk on 27 May. She was held for six days before being released in a prisoner exchange. She described how she was violently interrogated.
“My face was smashed, he punched me in the face with his fist, he was trying to beat me everywhere, I was covering myself with my hands …. I was huddled in the corner, curled up in a ball with my hands around my knees. He was angry that I was trying to protect myself. He went out and came back with a knife.”
She described how her interrogator made her write a separatist slogan on the wall, in her own blood.

Sasha, a 19-year-old pro-Ukrainian activist, fled to Kyiv after he was abducted by separatists at gunpoint in Luhansk. He said he was beaten repeatedly for 24 hours.
“They beat me with their fists, a chair, anything they could find. They stubbed out cigarettes on my leg and electrocuted me. It went on for so long, I couldn’t feel anything anymore, I just passed out,” he told Amnesty International.
He was finally released after his father paid a US$60,000 ransom.

www.thejournal.ie...

a reply to: SurrenderingAmerica

So you post a picture of a dead woman and child with nothing to put the photo into proper context while suggesting, yet offering no proof, that Ukraine killed them.

Contrary to what you may think, you will have to do better than posting pictures and making insinuations.

Evidence has been provided by the US, as people were demanding. The demands were made because people thought the US would not release it. Now that they did, people are scrambling to try and dismiss it by doing everything they can to shift focus away from it and try to put the focus on photos, such as the one you posted, where absolutely no facts are submitted with posts like yours.

The Pro Russian rebels / Russian government are responsible. Putin tried to play Supreme Soviet and it blew up in his face.

With the latest round of sector sanctions by the US and Europe, I can only imagine what Russia / Rebels are going to try to manipulate and lie next.

The Russian people need to fire Putin before he kills them all.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

How come when these so called truth videos are posted there are none of the separatists storming police stations such as this one...

Because they truly believe that people should not question what Russia / Putin state. They are stuck with the cold war mentality that what they say is the truth and if you don't agree with it, the KGB grabs you in the middle of the night for re-education purposes.

They cannot seem to get it through their heads that its no longer the 1980's, that Russia is not the Soviet Union, and that people demand context and sources to verify what Russia claims is actually true.

So far all I have seen is Russia say one thing while doing the opposite, making accusations while not offering one shred of evidence to support their accusations, while ignoring anything that proves them wrong.

Putin / Pro Russian rebels want mindless automatons so they wont be questioned. That's even more important when the "leaders" of the rebels are being replaced by Russian's sent by Moscow.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

The west destabilized the Ukraine in order to put in its choice of government, that's about the most simplest way of putting it. And I never said it was the truth, I made an inferential statement as to true events surrounding the destabilisation of the country.

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

The west destabilized the Ukraine in order to put in its choice of government, that's about the most simplest way of putting it. And I never said it was the truth, I said it depicts true events surrounding the destabilisation of the country.

Yet the elected government of Ukraine is the one who removed Yanukovych. ALL members of Ukraine's parliament were elected in 2012 and Russia accepted the results.
Russia is the one who invaded Ukraine (Crimea) and currently occupies it.
Russia is supplying Russian special forces with equipment and weapons inside the South and East Ukraine.

This was all Russia's doing and Putin has stated that with his 40 excuses for why he invaded Crimea... He went from attacks "on ethnic Russians", which he could never supply the evidence to the UN on the many occasions they asked for it, up to stating the reason he invaded Ukraine was to secure Crimea and the base because, in his land of make believe and wonder, thinks NATO is a threat.

soooooo no..


Putin and his paranoia caused this.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Agree to disagree, and what the west did in order to get what they wanted and are still doing to get what they want, is wrong.

The people of Ukraine are going to suffer which ever way you look at it, one evil or the other



Btw, where's the proof of this?

Russia is the one who invaded Ukraine (Crimea) and currently occupies it.