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I think the "strong delusion" reference is to a person, Eleazar ben Simon, who many people believe was to blame for the Jewish rebels being defeated by the Romans that allowed the downfall of Jerusalem and the destruction of its temple in the First Jewish–Roman War.
. . . the pivotal Biblical event referred to as the coming "strong delusion".
originally posted by: DaphneApollo
Well, you're right about Dr. Tyson being a hypocrite; he speaks against there being UFOs and then speaks of there being other civilisations in the Cosmos, even himself riding what looks like a craft in the beginning of your video.
Science HAS become a religion, BUT, I challenge any of them to create an ATOM without any help from materials available on earth or outside of, it can't be done.
Lots of people worship the created instead of the Creator of it all. But, the Strong Delusion is something a little different to me and they will believe the LIE. Your material does cover a lot of it too.
S&F
This is the crux of all of Satan's deceptions. It is the crux of all the materialists of the world that reject the inspired word of God, rather they call themselves atheists, Hindu's, Gnostic, Agnostic, etc. I have conclusively proven that they are all one and the same, unified in their beliefs and their opposition against God.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: BlackManINC
This is the crux of all of Satan's deceptions. It is the crux of all the materialists of the world that reject the inspired word of God, rather they call themselves atheists, Hindu's, Gnostic, Agnostic, etc. I have conclusively proven that they are all one and the same, unified in their beliefs and their opposition against God.
you can't be serious dude...
There is no way to possibly reconcile the idea that Atheists, hindu's, gnostics, or agnostics are the same... in that they all reject "the word of God"...
Atheists don't believe there is a God...
originally posted by: Akragon Hindu's have several 'Gods'...
originally posted by: Akragon Gnostics believe in Christ... and some believe he was God...
originally posted by: Akragon And Agnostics aren't sure about anything but they lack definitive belief in any diety...
originally posted by: BlackManINC
The true supreme "god" of the Gnostics is a being called Sophia, who emanated a flawed consciousness, which is the god of the Bible they refer to as "the creator", who created everything in his own flawed image.
originally posted by: BlackManINC
This creator, Yahweh, according to them, imagined himself to be the supreme god. So since God the father can't be the true god, then neither can Jesus, as he and his father are one,
originally posted by: BlackManINC
So logically, if they are saying this about God the father, then that also includes his only begotten son Jesus Christ.
originally posted by: BlackManINC
and my threads and videos show exactly how the world will be deceived into worshiping him as "God".
originally posted by: BlackManINC
If I were to assume that agnostics have any "god' at all, it is the same "god" of the atheist. I agree with DaphneApollo that science has become a religion, and that's what the atheist and agnostics worships, they worship science.
originally posted by: BlackManINC
What they all have in common with each other no matter the creed or religion is there doctrine of materialism, so my points been proven.
All of which are pantheistic in nature just like all other pagan religions, there "supreme gods" in particular, Brahma, a deity they all believe in, is the universe itself. They do not believe in any thing like the same God Christians believe in.
Some may claim to believe in Christ, but just like the New Age "Christ", it clearly isn't the same Christ described in the Bible. Jesus, to the Gnostic, was not god in the flesh, but merely a prophet, a "messenger of light", or an ascended master as a new ager would call him who came to bring forth "the mysteries", to bring forth "Gnosis".
They don't believe he came to bring salvation from sin through his death and resurrection, but from ignorance. The true supreme "god" of the Gnostics is a being called Sophia,
who emanated a flawed consciousness, which is the god of the Bible they refer to as "the creator", who created everything in his own flawed image.
[This creator, Yahweh, according to them, imagined himself to be the supreme god. So since God the father can't be the true god, then neither can Jesus, as he and his father are one, who was there since before the creation of the heavens and the earth. So logically, if they are saying this about God the father, then that also includes his only begotten son Jesus Christ.
It is an absolute heresy and this Sophia character is obviously nothing more than Satan elevating himself as God. Satan wants to be like God, the book of Revelation states that he will come to be worshiped as one,
, just like most of the other "supreme gods" throughout most pagan religions and the Wiccan faith, he's "mysterious and unknown", and my threads and videos show exactly how the world will be deceived into worshiping him as "God".
If I were to assume that agnostics have any "god' at all, it is the same "god" of the atheist. I agree with DaphneApollo that science has become a religion, and that's what the atheist and agnostics worships, they worship science. What they all have in common with each other no matter the creed or religion is there doctrine of materialism, so my points been proven.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: BlackManINC
Well thank you for showing you at least know something about other religions... that's always a plus
Lets see...
All of which are pantheistic in nature just like all other pagan religions, there "supreme gods" in particular, Brahma, a deity they all believe in, is the universe itself. They do not believe in any thing like the same God Christians believe in.
Technically in some circles Brahma is one of three "main gods"
Sound familiar?
originally posted by: Akragon
Actually they consider the Christian YHWH to be the demiurge... which is an evil lower god, who basically thought he was the boss... which was the reason for his Jealousy recorded in the bible.
except "Christ" was created before the demiurge in gnostic theology... the only begotten son of the Mother and Father...
Still sounds familiar to me... Minus the "mother" figure... but of course women were less then second class citizens in biblical times...
originally posted by: Akragon
Well ya but that's because you've been taught its "heresy" because it doesn't agree with your version of Christianity...
Sophia regretted that she created the "demiurge" without permission and repented to God... Does that sound like satan?
On the other hand "Yaltabaoth" got all Jealous/Wrathful/envious when he figured out there were others like him... kinda like the god in the bible actually...
originally posted by: Akragon
Where did you prove anything?
You don't believe Christians are materialistic for some strange reason?
The real Jesus is not a created being, he was united with YHWH, the real God, in essence from the beginning and they and their creation were both good.
Gnosticism has Jesus as a created being who is above his father who is considered evil along with his creation.
The Gnostic Jesus contradicts the doctrine of atonement of sin through his resurrection, since Jesus, according to them, did not have a bodily Resurrection and henceforth neither will we.
Everything about this "Sophia" character sounds just like Satan. According to the Gnostic myth, and in Freemasonry, Adam and Eve were created and kept in ignorance to be slaves to YHWH, the "demiurge", whose spirits were entrapped in fleshly bodies. "Sophia", this "goddess" didn't agree to this, so she implants a "spark of the divine" within Adam & Eve. "Sophia", basically tells Adam & Eve that "they shall be as gods", knowing good and evil through "Gnosis". Where have I heard this crap before?
As you seem to believe that Christianity is "pantheistic" despite there not being a shred of evidence in the Bible even implying such a thing,
then you are henceforth claiming to have seen God, since God, according to the heathens of the world, is in all things. But if you haven't seen God, as the Bible clearly states that no one has, then there is nothing more to talk about concerning his true character as he obviously has nothing in common with anything in our created little universe,
contrary to what the Gnostics and the rest of the heathens would like you to believe. There is a difference between understanding who and what god is through the Bible and knowing his appearance.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: BlackManINC
The real Jesus is not a created being, he was united with YHWH, the real God, in essence from the beginning and they and their creation were both good.
Just as in gnostic beliefs... except they don't believe in this YHWH character... who is not the Father of Jesus...
And Jesus was created... I know Christians have this whole issue with the word "begotten" but the fact is Jesus could not be a son, nor could "the Father" be a Father if the Father did not come before the son...
This debate was covered and unfortunately lost way back with Arius... but he stuck to what the bible says unlike his opponents....
Wrong...
Jesus was a created being, but YHWH was not his Father... and never equal to his Father... like HE said
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. - John 1: 1-14
originally posted by: Akragonhmmm...
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
originally posted by: Akragon
contrary to what the Gnostics and the rest of the heathens would like you to believe. There is a difference between understanding who and what god is through the Bible and knowing his appearance.
With that I will agree...
And what does it look like... while we're on that subject
originally posted by: DaphneApollo
The Strong Delusion
I don't really believe in a pre-trib rapture, so, in my opinion, we'll be here for this until Christ's return at the 7th Trump.
It's the 6th Trump we have to be paying attention to.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Satan, The Devil, ( Anti-Christ ( instead of ) comes first at that 6th trump and sits himself in the new Temple which is now being planned/built in Jerusalem. And I feel with the help of his minions, these rascals below.
Yes, they will be deceived for they believed the lie.
Satan Shall Come Imitating Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12)
Regarding Science: I will just say there are some very strange things going on in science, cloning, cell manipulation to make hideous hybrids, etc.
Matthew 24:37
As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
I have a Scientist in my family and they're not evil and do believe in God. But, some believe only in Science and no God. That's why I said what I did about the atom and not being able to replicate it.
Stem Cells & the Nephilim - Chuck Missler - Full
I really respect this man. He's a chemist/physicist himself but loves God and goes on to expose what he feels is going on in regards to the End Times.
originally posted by: colbe
Here is a great explanation of the "strong delusion" in 2 Thess 2:10 found in the English translation of the Latin Vulgate, the first Bible.
From the Douay-Rheims, the footnote for that verse.
2 Thessalonians 2:10
And in all seduction of iniquity to them that perish; because they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying:
[10] God shall send: That is God shall suffer them to be deceived by lying wonders, and false miracles, in punishment of their not entertaining the love of truth.
Condensed history of evolutionism by NephilimFree:
1. The theory of evolution came from the Hindu Brahmins
2. pantheistic evolution was passed down by Pythagoras to the Greeks
3. Thales and his Ionic School branched out from Pantheistic Evolution to Naturalistic Evolution
4. Anaximander (610 BCE-546 BCE), who was the first to suggest that physical forces, rather than supernatural forces, create order in the universe
5. Plato and Aristotle's evolutionary ideas were dispersed through the Alexandrian School in Egypt
6. The ideas were followed through the Middle Ages (Aquinas), Renaissance and into Freemasonry, where they were preserved
7. Freemasonry and the Enlightenment had a re-birth of the philosophy of evolution
8. Lord Monboddo and Erasmus Darwin carried the philosophy forward
9. Charles Darwin, coaxed by Charles Lyell to write about the idea after the voyage on the Beagle, developed the idea into a pseudoscientific theory
The basics for the modern theory of evolution were first articulated in 1745 by the French mathematician and philosopher Pierre Louis Maupertius. Additionally, Charles Darwin’s own grandfather, Erasmus Darwin, wrote of the idea as early as 1796. However, few men did as much for the theory as did the French naturalist Jean-Baptiste Lamarck, who came up with the first truly cohesive theory of evolution, in which he argued that there was a natural force that drove organisms up a ladder of complexity, and a second environmental force that adapted them to local environments through use and disuse of characteristics, differentiating them from other organisms—which was very close to Darwin’s concept of natural selection. Darwin’s greatest competitor, however, was the Englishman Alfred Wallace, who presented a very similar theory to Darwin’s to the prestigious Linnean Society in 1858 at the same time Darwin presented his.