After much prayer and research, id love some feedback on this, fellow ATSers! Then ill tell you the

a reply to: deadeyedick

Where is the fun in that. let's be honest though do you really find this thread or forum rational in any way? If you look at the names and meanings then you may see some links between the plants and the actions of the two people. Look at the potential of one plant and the potential of the other and you may see something but i hold not much hope for you to let go of any of your intelluctual comfort blankets you cling to.

And there's the pot calling the kettle black. If that's all you have, then I'm done with you. And in answer to your question: this threads represents, in my opinion, all the logic and pragmatism of an inflatable dartboard.

a reply to: AfterInfinity

Did you just call me intellectual? thanks that does not happen often.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: AfterInfinity

Did you just call me intellectual? thanks that does not happen often.

I guess that means you're done having a meaningful conversation, which means I'm done giving you the time of day. I don't know why I even bother with you.

a reply to: AfterInfinity Well you did start out by saying basicaly that my post were meaningless then ended twice by saying that the meaningful conversation was over so there must be some sort of attraction. Did you read the first of the op and go over the meanings of the names cain and able? There are simularities in the two names and the effects of the two plants. To understand my thinking you should know that i believe that animals and plants have spirits just like us. They are us. Now that you have the thought of cain and able being spiritually connected to plants then you can add in the other popular plant. The popee and i will leave it up to the reader to decide who the spirit of the popee is in the bible. Afterall our world is dominated by these plants.

Reply to, SenterSun about where the wives came from.

I have heard Christians say they (Adam and Eve) must have had girls that were unrecorded and thus they had an incest thing going on.. strangely enough these Christians have no problem with this concept LOL - But that is Incorrect. ( though it IS true women in general who were not major figures were seldom recorded throughout the Bible)

The Bible and or Torah talk about 974 generations of Man before Adam and Eve came on the scene. They were Not the first people on the planet.

Hebrews or rather the Chaldeans who became the Hebrews wrote in a form of code called the Sinai-tic code. They wrote this way to keep certain things from falling into hands of folks who would corrupt the knowledge. This code can be seen in both the Old and New Testaments and it is Only according to scripture how this code can be uncovered - Line upon line precept upon precept, by the Holy Spirit.

The narration starts with Adam and Eve to show a direct lineage to the 12 tribes of Israel and then to the Messiah, whom most Jews rejected.

Of course as a Christian many of us are taught to read the Bible literally. This is a huge error people make because if you do this, and Not also "Line upon line precept upon precept, by the Holy Spirit" then you will come away with the wrong information. This is by design because God wants us to make use of the Holy Spirit - teaching us hidden things is part of the Holy spirits job.

a reply to: SenterSun

"Why is pope Benedict, indicted by the IICCS for child molestation, . . ."

IICCS is an entirely fictitious operation -- a big scam. Kevin Arnett, the guy who promotes it, lives in a trailer in Florida with his brother. There is no "court," no jury, no trials, just a crazy guy hiding out in a trailer and pretending to travel to Rome and other high European capitals to indict the Queen and the Pope.

If you doubt this, I challenge you find truly one solid piece of evidence, other than Kevin's breathless reporting, that such a court has ever been convened.

I think the internet is an amazing and vital gift.
That being said, I'm not sure that we are using it correctly.
It is the tool of our connection, but to me it seems like we are using it more as a crutch and a distraction.
Yes, we learn so much and lives across the planet can be touched. All too often though we leave it thinking we have accomplished something important when all we did was sit in our computer chairs only TALKING about change and growth.
If we couldn't have our "connection" fix to each other through the internet would we then maybe actually get out and DO some of these things we are always talking about?

a reply to: SenterSun

Why was Cain's offering not accepted? The cereal offerings by law don't exclude his offering. So why? If it was foreshadowing the messiah to come, why wasn't Cain told what Able obviously was, about the blood sacrifice? God said it was because "sin lies at the door" but didn't specify what. What Sin? Eves pride really, really made God Angry, is what I think. Plus something else Cain "acquired" that I wont go into yet.

Cain's offering was not accepted because he gave the stuff he didn't want anyway, while the Lord demanded his best.
It had nothing to do with "blood".
The "sin at the door" was envy against Abel (for his being commended for the quality of his offering) where Cain was afraid that he might loose his birthright.
This stuff comes out if you read the Septuagint version.

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SenterSun
Do not let your mind wander; it is too little to be let out alone. Some may admire a man who always sticks by his convictions; no matter how much he gets ridiculed for it!
I remind you, Genesis was folklore/campfire stories, a continuation narrative, not "scripture," it predates the actual writings from Moses by hundreds if not thousands of years.
The Eve and Cain references, A. they were not speaking Hebrew, 'hebrew' developed from Canaanite languages a branch of NW Semitic languages (i.e. Akkadian). B. Hebrew flourished by 1200BCE, not at the time of Adam and Eve.

The Hebrew names Káyin (קַיִן) and Hevel (הבל), Cain is thought to be cognate to the mid-1st millennium BC South Arabian word qyn, meaning "metalsmith"; i.e. Adam ("man," אדם) and Eve ("life-giver," חוה ).

"true follower of Christ" you do realize, (or more likely you do not) the non hebrew 'followers of Christ' converted to Judaism and used the TaNaKh (Old Testament) as "scripture"... not pagan christianity; their pagan new testament, largely anonymous, was 'cannonized' 300 yrs AFTER Christ's murder.

the G of Yeshua ישוע (yod, shin, vav, ayin, hey) the Christ (greek for 'anointed') was the one true G, the G of Abraham, Sh'ma Yisrael: the LORD our G, the LORD is one (Deut 6:4)

JohnPhoenix, the talmud Chaggiga 13b-14a states that there were 974 generations before G created Adam... not Torah.
The tribe descended from Abraham (of Sumerian Ur) were 4000BC Assyrian not 1000BC Chaldean that migrated to lower SE Mesopotamia, (כשדים Kaśdim); the Chaldeans did not exist in Mesopotamia at the time of Abraham. The root language of 10th century BCE protohebrew was semitic-Akkadian, later (8th century BC) marginalized by aramaic.

a reply to: SenterSun

I would like to talk to you but i don't have skype

Yeah....not really....nice try though Enjoy your 15 minutes, its all you're gonna geta reply to: Cuervo

originally posted by: wyrmboy12
Yeah....not really....nice try though

Enjoy your 15 minutes, its all you're gonna geta reply to: Cuervo

I'm not sure how to reply to that.

15 minutes of what? What are you talking about?

Well based on your Aleister Crowley snip, profile pic and comments you made about Christ not winning, I would imagine you're a pagan ( aka worshipper of demonic forces ) maybe i'm wrong but those 3 things strongly suggest otherwise. Prophecy says these forces will rule Earth for a short time....then be utterly and permanently destroyed....if what I'm picking up about you is true and forgive me if I'm wrong but you seem to be aligned with these forces...So yeah enjoy the 15mins of fame if you choose these forces during the times of revelation ( If they happen in our lifetime ) It won't last long The Lord is Jesus, there is no other a reply to: Cuervo

God is dog spelled backwards, god=dog. God is everywhere=dog goes to the bathroom everywhere. Exactly 112 pieces of kibble in his bowl=revelation chapter 1 verse 12, apocalypse = adogolypse. Cat interrupts sleeping dog, cat=satan, only satan doesn't observe sabbath

a reply to: Bhadhidar

you are right , they are devices used, a man can still follow and glorify god surrounded by evil men, read matthew

originally posted by: JohnPhoenix
The Bible and or Torah talk about 974 generations of Man before Adam and Eve came on the scene. They were Not the first people on the planet.

I think you're confusing Rabbinical sayings with Torah. Otherwise, please show us where this is stated in Torah or any portion of the Tanakh for that matter.

Blessings,
Cody

Please don't misunderstand me on this, but the OP is technically correct. The internet is evil. Now...I work on the internet and make my living in computers, websites, etc. But if you follow the biblical depiction of evil, and often even our own definition...it fits quite well. Look at the brain-dead teens with cell phones, the "I don't know their phone number" mentality and (again...definition) porn, hate, crime, etc. I know the internet is just a tool, but I would agree that it has hurt our society dramatically. I'm slowly becoming a believer that if we can't do it without technology...maybe we shouldn't be doing it. And...we have become lazy and stupid with technology doing all the hard work, including thinking for us. What would most of us do in a long-term loss of power? Would we know how to survive? I think not in many cases. We are addicted to tech...and are losing ourselves.

But don't get me wrong...I'm going with the flow too. So...star and flag from me. You aren't wrong my friend.

originally posted by: DarkATi

originally posted by: JohnPhoenix
The Bible and or Torah talk about 974 generations of Man before Adam and Eve came on the scene. They were Not the first people on the planet.

I think you're confusing Rabbinical sayings with Torah. Otherwise, please show us where this is stated in Torah or any portion of the Tanakh for that matter.

Blessings,
Cody

Perhaps i was a wee bit mistaken, it was the Talmud.

The Talmud itself couldn’t be more explicit when it states “There were 974 generations before Adam,” (Shabbat 88b). Quite simply, the Midrash explains that there were other manlike creations in existence before Adam. At a certain point, man was elevated to exist in the “image of G-d” and this is the moment of Adam HaRishon. This is the first human imbued with a certain level of spiritual dignity and responsibility. This moment when G-d breathed a soul into man creating a human awareness of the self and of the Divine is where the spiritual distinction was made between man and animal.

www.thejewishweek.com...

Google's definition of thw Talmud:

the body of Jewish civil and ceremonial law and legend comprising the Mishnah and the Gemara. There are two versions of the Talmud: the Babylonian Talmud (which dates from the 5th century AD but includes earlier material) and the earlier Palestinian or Jerusalem Talmud.

Wikipedia's definition of the Talmud:

The Talmud (/ˈtɑːlmʊd, -məd, ˈtæl-/; Hebrew: תַּלְמוּד talmūd "instruction, learning", from a root lmd "teach, study") is a central text of Rabbinic Judaism. It is also traditionally referred to as Shas (ש״ס), a Hebrew abbreviation of shisha sedarim, the "six orders". The term "Talmud" normally refers to the Babylonian Talmud, though there is also an earlier collection known as the Jerusalem Talmud.

en.wikipedia.org...

Job 38:11...'Thus far you shall come, but no farther; And here shall your proud waves stop

..hit the same wall as the 974 generations thread
i wonder if anyone ever looked around for the patito audio file?

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
I guess I would like to believe that We still have a chance to use the this control mechanism against the intent of it's controllers.
Do I know how? Nope...so I'm not being much help.