Corporate Control vs. Government Control: Which is better?

a reply to: xuenchen

Before there is any chance of changing any government there does need to be a clear vision of where it is going. How do you see things working in the year 2084?

In some ways we are representing ourself taking part in these forums. Lot of big complex issues so not much happens, at a minimum we are all learning.

a reply to: kwakakev

Taking people (more specifically, politicians) out of the picture is, ironically, the only way to make a democracy work. It's technically feasible but practically unrealistic. Everyone in the country would have to vote on decisions and sometimes rapidly, in the case of imminent nuclear attack.

We would need a bunch of general principles decided upon by the people that are then carried out by disinterested servants of the country.

Alternatively, an election might feasibly work but there could be no advertisements and we wouldn't even be able to see their face because that affects our decision whether we believe it does or not. We couldn't even know if they were "democrat" or "republican" because that plays with in-group/out-group biases. Discussion of our views would have to be outlawed because that, too, would influence our future decisions.

Both should be limited by law. The US has a good Constitution to limit Gov't power, but it is currently being ignored. Corporations might not be too much problem if Gov'ts didn't encourage monopolies, and if Private Central Banks did not exist.

a reply to: zackli

With the current technology we are talking around the world instantly, in the past it could of taken up to two years or more to get a message across the world and back again. That was once the boats got good enough to make the trip. Practically we are talking very well I would say.

If things get to the stage where war breaks out then it is too late to do anything here, go save your ass. As for topics that are floating around and causing issues then being able to talk helps. Sometimes easy answers are not there, but understanding your situation helps work with it.

One thing I like about shareholders is with the informed vote that can be used for corporate direction. Having people vote on things they do not understand or does not directly affects them has little motivation and reason. With the long term investors they tend to invest in things they understand. It might not be perfect but has some common sense in the big decisions.

Consensus is one thing that helps govern the complex international political environment. People will back what they believe in.

Government control is always better. At least with Government control there is the CHANCE of change, of voting people out of actually getting a leader in office that cares, of laws that reflect fairness and the betterment of society. With MOST, not all, corporations, it
's the bottom line. Nothing else matters, right?