Israel stirkes 9 military targets in Syria.

a reply to: g146541

Comparing N.Korea to israeli terrorists...N.Korea while "maybe" a rogue state, (we can't really know) Stays within their borders and does not bully every nation that borders them.

Really? Are you trolling us ... or is your knowledge of geography and history just that bad?

You know, Israel plays its cards pretty close to its chest. I wonder if they Do have hundreds of nukes. You wouldn't find me betting against that. I can also hazard a guess as to where they got them. Now, imagine what the Caliphate could/would do if a couple hundred nukes fell into their hands intact ... especially if their signature had "Made In The USA" written all over it.

a reply to: Wrabbit2000

Israel is also FAR from the largest recipient of foreign aid the last few years.

If you don't count the nations that we have attacked and are giving aid to Israel remains near the top of the heap.

Finally...and really, this keeps coming up. We are legally BOUND to send a billion or so to Israel as we are legally BOUND to send a billion or so to Egypt. BOTH NATIONS GET THIS. Both nations get this in direct connection to each other and out of the same set of agreements and treaties.

The only reason we give aid to Egypt is because of the peace agreement between Israel and Egypt. I have pointed this out time and time again. Also we can stop the aid anytime we want all we would have to do is label Israel a terrorist state.

If you would like to cut off every Arab nation for aid, I'll be happy to go with cutting off Israel and perhaps it's long past time, TBH.

I have said many times we should cut off all foreign aid. We need that money at home not going to other nations. If people want to support Israel they have every right to do so but don't use my tax dollars to support the terrorist running Israel.

However...unless we favor the cold blooded murder of 7 MILLION people (the rough population between Israeli Jews and Arab citizens within Israeli borders) then we cut them *BOTH* or we cut NEITHER.

Oh yes the they are going to get wiped out so we have to support them speech.

We shouldn't be in that business and damn sure not against allies.

With allies like Israel we don't need enemies. Where has our "ally" been during this whole war on terror?

a reply to: buster2010

If you don't count the nations that we have attacked and are giving aid to Israel remains near the top of the heap.

Well I do count them, and am not going to add qualifications and conditions until I get the Anti-Israel end result some would be searching for. They aren't the highest recipient of either military or non-military aid in recent years. It's simply a factual statement.

The only reason we give aid to Egypt is because of the peace agreement between Israel and Egypt. I have pointed this out time and time again.

Indeed... I don't dispute that. It's money well spent, as it's kept a balance and parity between former combatants for over 30 years....until someone decided the Arabs needed a Spring, anyway. (sigh)

I have said many times we should cut off all foreign aid.

Well, then we'd agree except for where you single out Israel...but to each their own fixation in foreign affairs I suppose.

With allies like Israel we don't need enemies. Where has our "ally" been during this whole war on terror?

Really? You have no clue what Israel has done in support of the war efforts since 2001? Hell.. You've complained about some of it yourself for not having agreed with it.

Yes.. I do call Israel an Ally. In fact, not just any ally, but until we started showing them hate in policy, they've been among the very best U.S. allies in the region for near 40 years now. Opinions vary of course. However, to suggest they've done nothing in support of U.S. efforts over the past 13+ years is just silly, in my personal opinion.

a reply to: Snarl

Oh, I see some very big ways to stop this Caliphate concept. We are just very determined to not be a part of it, it seems.

Fine.... I wouldn't trust Obama to solve a minor disagreement between nations without apologizing at least a few times and giving away something of American national interest in the process.

In this case, Iran, Syria and even Russia have more than a few things to say about a Caliphate whose first priority will be the total obliteration of 2 out of those 3, and in so doing, destroy critical and strategic arrangements with the third.

There is many a slip between a cup and the lip...and ISIS hasn't drank to their victory quite yet.

Ahh some of my favorite poster at odd's. Israel was created out of religion because we felt bad for them. That was not the best idea. On top of that they are trying to expand, that is the issue. If they are attacked on the soil that was given to them by the UN so be it. Retaliate, but with they WANT a war with Iran. They want a war with Syria. They are the attack dog that is trying to break it's leash and drag us down, not that we need help. To fight with them because they know they are out numbered. And it is over a little part of land that they want and have no right too.

Crash

a reply to: crashbehr

Ahh some of my favorite poster at odd's.

Duly noted!! LOL One of my favorite things about this site. People whose opinions are fully matured, with the capability to express them as intelligent discussion over a cup of coffee, who can sit back and enjoy a beer together when it's all been laid out on the table.

The government of Israel has been responsible for some pretty despicable planning. The folks willing to declare Jihad ... no better. A lot more Jihadis running around these days as compared to members of an internationally recognized government. Their government takes their licks from their peers in the international community. Wanting to punish all of their people for those actions ... well ... I can't sail with folks taking that particular cruise.

I've done more than my fair share of time in that neck of the woods (absolutely none in Israel). What I've seen, specific to Islam, I've grown to understand after decades of consideration. This is acceptable if you are willing to embrace Islam. It is Not ... if you are Jewish and wish to remain so. This is where 'fair' and 'freedom of choice' jump the tracks. The Jews aren't killing people just because they're Muslim.

a reply to: the2ofusr1

depend how serious they take there commitment to war, and not peace.

hmm war and peace,, sounds like a catchy title.

originally posted by: crashbehr
Ahh some of my favorite poster at odd's. Israel was created out of religion because we felt bad for them. That was not the best idea. On top of that they are trying to expand, that is the issue. If they are attacked on the soil that was given to them by the UN so be it. Retaliate, but with they WANT a war with Iran. They want a war with Syria. They are the attack dog that is trying to break it's leash and drag us down, not that we need help. To fight with them because they know they are out numbered. And it is over a little part of land that they want and have no right too.

Crash

As far as Israel expanding, they are clearly violating their own agreements, and have a horrendous human rights track record when it comes to how some of the situations with the palestinians have been handled. I'm not one to suggest that Israel is beyond reproach, because their hands are dirty too. However, I think gleefully suggesting the entire nation be nuked is a very bigoted response to the issue.

As for Israel having it out for their neighbors, I can't say I blame them. Can anyone honestly say that Israel's neighbors don't have it out for Israel? They are surrounded by nations where the prevailing chant at any sort of rally (political, religious, or otherwise) is "DEATH TO ISRAEL". They have been fighting for their survival from the moment their nation was born. Nobody with even a cursory understanding of history can deny that Israel has been attacked by it's neighbors on a number of occasions, yet certain members here like to paint them as the sole aggressor in the region.

a reply to: palg1

I do not find it hypocritcal at all. Hezbollah is a natural response to the policies of Israel over the past half century. Being in Iran/Syrias shoes when you have a state that is way out of line with everything, including true Jewish tradition that is funded by and armed by the largest military in the world that of this amazing fascist nation that is America it only makes sense that you would do all you could to possibly deter them from expanding any further than their stolen borders.


Do you not find it hypocrtical that they have an open air concentration camp where innocent palestinians are left to suffer from a regime created off of the horrible acts of WWII?

Not to mention the use of white phosphorous or does that not fit in with your idea of hypocrisy either?

a reply to: elementalgrove

Hahahaha what a frackin joke. Your kidding right, Israel north Korea of middle east. What a pathetic statement. If you were not obviously muslim and or racially and culturally biased you would know how utterly absurd that statement is.

N Korea is only likened to Nazis or Stalin, etc. Extreme communism to the point of complete and total isolation. WhoseI people are brain washed from birth. Israel is nothing like them in any sense. They are the most persecuted culture on the planet and all strictly for religious reasons.

They have been surrounded and attacked since their country was reformed. Nation states such as Iran wish to wipe them off the face of the earth. This also included the nation of Syria which as a nation has trained and sponsored terrorist acts against them.

They do not apologize for defending themselves and nor should they. Luckily for you I am not Jewish for if I were and in charge i would have turned the sand into glass and the wicked terrorist with it. You are lucky they show restraint when threatened to wipe them off the map. I would have done exactly that in first strike and justified in doing so.

Go back to Iran or whatever rock you crawled out from under talking this crap....

The Bot

a reply to: dlbott

You missed my response to Wrabbits diagreement with the whole turn in cheek comment that I made about Israel being the North Korea of the middle east. It was a joke so you are correct sir! I love the empassioned support of Israel by the way!

I am not muslim, I actually have Jewish blood running through these veins so enjoy the whole I hate myself thought process you are about to have! It is quite simple to me, the state of Israel that was established after WWII does not in any way shape or form embody legit Jewish beliefs. They cling to a doctorine that is as crazy as the psychopathic Whabbists of Saudi Arabia. Hence the use of white phosphorous on on Palestinians and the continue Genocide that is being perpetrated against them.

Brainwashed since birth you say, mmmm that does sound a little bit like the Zionist creed interesting! Extreme belief to the point of complete isolation also an interesting way to describe NK, do you not get the feeling that the international community is beginning to do this with Israel. Bibi is not that different than Kim Jong Un. They both delight in power and control of their people, as well as mandatory military service! They also have no problems with killing fellow human beings, you know what maybe it was not a joke!


Why do you so willingly defend Israel or do you disagree with their treament of palestinians, those families matter as well friend! Nevermind I missed your eloquently put genocidal comment about if you were Jewish how you would murder millions of innocent people all around the middle east! I bet you are from Murica as well!

Also I am from good old Murica! The psychopathic country that has been fomenting war across the globe for the last 100 years! It is an awesome rock!

a reply to: Wrabbit2000

Well since it is obvious that both America and Israeli interests are Funding and supporting this ISIS in every way, why would you think they are not going to succeed ??

a reply to: dlbott

Talk about Frackin Jokes,

The Jews living in such an area, with a provocative tone in every way to announce the return of their God, (same dam God Muslims are waiting for)

Have no idea in the WORLD or anywhere else, that they are just a useless cog, to be thrown away , used for fodder,

But since they actually have no clue about the origins of all of this strife, they are allowed to continue, continue the everlasting spiral into meaninglessness.

Get a grip people, Realize that none of this is what it seems, stop playing a game you do not own in the slightest, and one that you cannot win.

a reply to: ParasuvO

Yeah, I'm sure ISIS is formed and supported by the US and Israel. Do you think that happened before or after it's leader was a notable guest in US military custody during the Iraq war? I keep getting hung up on that part as well as Al Qaeda rejecting them for being too extreme. You figure they'd welcome Israeli support to their cause? I get lost entirely at that part.

a reply to: elementalgrove

Just wait till we hit mid-July into early August. It's going to be REALLY ugly by then. The fiery wrath is coming.

a reply to: WCmutant

actually by mid July,,
i think this might be in full flight.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Expat Health Centres Closed As Deadly Virus Spreads
June 23, 2014 By Lisa Smith

A government investigation of health testing for expats in Saudi Arabia has seen 12 medical centres shut after revealing poor standards and bad management.

….The investigation was sparked by the spread of the deadly Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) in the country. "

unquote.

Here's some more news on this. Netanyahu as usual showing his true colours.

Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu would like to see the al-Qaeda spin-off ISIS attack Iran in a repeat of the Iran-Iraq War, a conflict that lasted eight years and cost Iraq 500,000 lives and Iran more than 750,000.

Netanyahu told the United States to stay out of the fight currently developing in Iraq and allow both sides to annihilate each other. “Don’t strengthen either of them. Weaken both,” he advised.

According to Netanyahu and the Israelis, a comparable or larger death toll resulting from a war between Sunni and Shia Muslims would be preferable to Iran possessing a nuclear weapon.

He really is a despicable excuse for a human being!

Netanyahell endorses ISIS attack on Iran


This BS in Iraq is so obviously planned by the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia that it is so unbelievable when someone tries to tell you the ISIS is not part of Al-Qaeda. Of course they are part of them. This condemnation by Al-Qaeda is just a smoke screen. Remember the fact Al-Qaeda is not a group. It's a list of Israeli and US Terrorist employees. Exactly the same as the ISIS!

a reply to: DeadSeraph

Take a look how Israel was created and what atrocities were committed. I can guarantee it wasn't written about in history books. What we are seeing today is exactly what the Zionist groups done to peaceful Palestinians back in the late 40's. Israel was created through terrorising innocent Arabs who weren't just Muslim but Christian also. Maybe even Jews.

This hatred isn't about the Jews in General and never has been. Jews lived in peace with both Christians and Muslims prior to the establishment of Israel. The hatred is about the illegal land grab and though we may say it's in the past and should be left in the past, the Muslims don't see it that way and will not accept Zionist Israel.

From a religious perspective also, the State of Israel is illegitimate.. Zionism had no right to take that land at all. Muslims know that no legitimate Israel can be established until the return of Jesus who will then rule the world from Jerusalem. This has not happened either and the Muslims are fully aware of it.

As much as the Israeli issue may look political, it really isn't. What we have is a case of Zionism (Godless) vs Muslims and if the script does play out the way it's predicted too, there will be no peace in that part of the world until the Zionists are uprooted. Don't get me wrong either, Zionism is not Judaism. They are opposites and Judaism/Jews are not the issue.

a reply to: Hilux1996

Netanyahu has said many disturbing things over the last 15 years. Some which have ended up lies and some which boggle the mind. He is truly an evil asswipe.

a reply to: Hilux1996

Thank you kindly for this contribution! It does not surpise me in the least to hear the heartless lunatic known as BIBI to be endorsing ISIS. The whole AL CIADA disavowing ISIS is hilarious. ISIS is simply the new buzzword that they will use to try and convince the American public to get reinvolved in the middle east. Honestly, this is nothing new, these people have been committing these same atrocities is Syria for 3 going on four years and now we finally hear of this threat because it is "new"

All things are connected, by that I am in complete agreement with you on naming US, Israel and Saudi Arabia remember this historic deal that went down conveniently right before the "civil war" in Syria popped off

www.globalresearch.ca...

The United States announced an arms deal with Saudi Arabia on Wednesday worth up to 60 billion dollars that includes advanced fighter jets, helicopters, missiles and other weaponry and equipment, dpa reported.

Sadly this game that is being played is about to be out of everyones control and we are not going to see the dust settle for quite some time, my thoughts and prayers are with all of the innocent people of the middle east! We are all one and the same, with out suffering there could be no compassion, however Karma is a bitch for what you do to another you do to yourself and you experience what you create!!