Very weird theory that I found on the Internet

a reply to: Phage

I remember everything you said. Nothing disproves what I remember. The point here is what some of us remember. If you don't believe it that's fine by me.

a reply to: Speculation

I remember my father once saying they were known as the Great Salt Lakes. Only thing is, he wouldn't remember it that way anymore.


BTW, if there are any Canadians on here who have experienced this Mandela Effect and are noticing a few, um, peculiar changes in Canada's geography, please contact me if you'd like to discuss it. I know I would (with someone in the same boat as me.) We can discuss the matter either here or by PM.

You are probably confusing it with Great Salk Lake in Utah.. The Great Lakes have always been the Great Lakes. I feel like this was already discussed.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

I just won a six-pack on the issue.
I asked a guy at work if he remembers the children's books about the family of bears.
He swore it was "stein" and still had the books. He gave them to his kid.
He went home and checked it at lunch.
Now he's looking at me like I'm some kind of evil wizard.

a reply to: skunkape23

Read some of my posts in the thread. I conducted some tests on people. Almost all non native English speakers said Stain. Almost all native English speakers said Stein even if the book was right in front of them.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

I remember my father once saying they were known as the Great Salt Lakes. Only thing is, he wouldn't remember it that way anymore.

Why would these fresh water lakes have ever been known as "The Great Salt Lakes"?

Okay, I decided to weigh in here now, because my 'circumstances' with the 'stain' vs 'stein' memory is unique to those which are based on childhood memories...

Warning - you may need to read this more than once for clarity, as I'm not the best at descriptive writing.

First, what follows may seem random, but it is pertinent to the story, as it underscores why my particular memory re: the "Berenstain" name thing is so unique:

My maiden name was German and contained the vowel combination 'ei', which my family pronounced with the long 'i' sound, but which was often mispronounced by others as a long 'e' sound -

- Now, in the late 80's when I was in my mid 20's, I was a live in nanny for a child who loved the "Berenstein Bears" books, which I distinctly remember with the 'ei' spelling...

...I have two reasons for feeling my memory on this to be particularly valid:

1. The memory is from well into my adulthood, and even better...

2. The memory of the spelling is reinforced by the fact that almost every time I picked up one of those books, I would ponder on whether the authors pronounced "Berenstein" with a long 'e' or a long 'i' and if it frustrated them as much as it did me (with my maiden name) when people got the pronunciation wrong.

And - to underscore my (possible) 'timeline shift' experience even further:

Flash forward just a bit over 10 years (early 2000's) when I have my own child, and imagine my surprise as she's watching PBS one morning to hear an announcement, "Coming up next, "The Berenstain Bears show"...

....and thinking to myself how weird it was (remember I only 'heard' the name at that point) that they pronounced the 'ei' with a long 'a' sound...

...and then imagine my absolute befuddlement on catching the end credits to the show and seeing that the name wasn't just pronounced with the long 'a' -

- but was actually spelled with an 'a' rather than the 'e' that I knew I remembered distinctly 'precisely because' of that 'ei' similarity to my name and how often I had wondered about correct pronunciation...


So, there ya go, I hope I've explained it all clearly enough to illustrate my point about having a rather unique perspective on this whole thing..

a reply to: lostgirl

You're brain auto corrected it...I showed this happens with English speakers. Even more so in your case due to the German name. Age isn't the issue. All my tests were done on adults.

I'll have to respond later. Need to get to bed!

Peace.

I think you folks might like this thread. More on how things were remembered.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Another thread of people making excuses for their memory?

a reply to: Night Star

I heard this on Coast to Coast Radio a few weekends ago. It's been great conversation. I clearly remember EIN but I have friends who say they clearly remember AIN. Crazy stuff. I'm fine with being from another dimension. I just want to go home..... a reply to: thisguy27

a reply to: raymundoko

So you're saying that back when I was a nanny, every time I picked up a 'Berenstain' book, my brain 'saw' the letters as "ei" rather than "ai", and I wondered about the similarity of pronunciation with my surname based on 'not seeing' the letters of the author's names correctly?

Oooookaayy....

a reply to: lostgirl
So you're saying the books you saw were really spelled "ei"? Why do you suppose no one has ever produced a legit book with that spelling?

If you could see the actual books you read as a nanny, and they're spelled "ai", what would you say then?

Can you contact the family you worked for?

Yes, how you deal with the truth is your decision. My money is on ignoring it.

a reply to: lostgirl

a reply to: DenyObfuscation

What part of "there would be no hardcore proof like "ei" books" don`t you understand? If this is indeed a different timeline from "stein" and it was always "stain" there is no proof other than memory and articles from people who had also most likely shifted to this timeline and remembered it as "stein", therefore they misspelled it in their work.

a reply to: raymundoko

Yes, how you deal with the truth is your decision. My money is on ignoring it.

Convincing people on ignoring their memories and truth? Avoid sensitive questions and such?....You truly are a disinfo agent, aren`t you? But least you are being honest in your profile, that has to count for something right?

a reply to: Op3nM1nd3d

What part of "there would be no hardcore proof like "ei" books" don`t you understand? If this is indeed a different timeline from "stein" and it was always "stain" there is no proof other than memory and articles from people who had also most likely shifted to this timeline and remembered it as "stein", therefore they misspelled it in their work.

What part of "different timeline" DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

a reply to: Op3nM1nd3d

So by your posts the merger happened some time in the 80's, yet how do you explain people in their early 20's who remember stein for some reason? Or better yet, teenage Barnes and Noble employees...

Are we still merging?

The earliest newspaper mispelling I can find is 1984

So theoretically if that was the year of the merger everyone born after that date should only remember Stain right???

At what point does this become just making excuses for your memory?

a reply to: raymundoko

Okay, this reply isn't meant to be a 'picking sides' thing - just honestly pointing out why the 'particular' link you chose is not the best to make your point:

The link goes to a newspaper 'letters to the editor' type page where the title, "Berenstein Bears" is being referred to in a letter as opposed to an 'officially published' source - so it could be just an actual (personal) spelling mistake by that particular writer...

...making the date of "earliest newspaper mispelling" "1984" a moot point.

Again, not saying it makes you wrong - just, it doesn't make your case.

a reply to: lostgirl

1985 has dozens of misspellings. Then hundreds in the late 80's...you can use the same tool I did.