HAARP: what is it really.

a reply to: deadeyedick

I guess everyone who is going went then.
Train left the station. HAARP is shutting down.

originally posted by: intrptr
If anyone wonders how submerged submarines get their war orders to shoot off their load of missiles… thats Haarp.

I had never heard this in connection with this array, but I suppose it does make sense. There are multiple ways to communicate with a submarine, but a VLF signal, if powerful enough, can penetrate over 50 feet under the ocean. It would take a large array to accomplish this. But, it would be purely a one way signal. If the submarine wanted to broadcast it would have to surface, or perhaps send up a buoy or something, although even a buoy can be detected electronically by the enemy.

A VLF signal cannot carry audio however, as the bandwidth is so narrow. But an ELF signal would be the best to use, as the penetration depth would be much greater. But, if I am not mistaken, HAARP does not use these types of signals, nor do they use VLF signals either. They use much higher frequencies. In fact, the equipment and setup for an ELF array is much more complicated, and would probably be much larger, than a traditional broadcasting site.

So I am not convinced that HAARP actually has the capacity to broadcast signals to a submarine. If they are truly exciting the ionosphere, they would use much higher frequency signals, signals that would not penetrate the ocean, even at relatively shallow depths. Now if the submarine was on the surface, HAARP could theoretically communicate with them, if they were set up to do that, but if the sub is going to surface, there are probably better ways and other facilities to send signals. Plus, I am pretty sure the US Navy has an ELF array that would be better suited, as it is designed for such things. Although messages transmitted with such a low frequency would tend to be really slow.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: deadeyedick



I guess everyone who is going went then.

Train left the station. HAARP is shutting down.

Yep job well done to all involved knowingly or unknowingly.

a reply to: JiggyPotamus

Boomers job is to hide. They sail to the North Pole and sit on the bottom under the ice, waiting.

Hoping to God the message never comes. I had heard that message was relayed via Haarp. Then they come to shallow depth and receive launch directive. Sealed messages in the sub verify the voracity of the message.
Its a short message like you said.

Because the means to relay war messages might be compromised they will have multiple channels. Haarp is just one.