Sandy Hook Forensic Evidence

originally posted by: douglas5
I found this video about the town it is quite interesting about the barbers shop being kicked out and a new one coming to town called sshh with a red hand

"end times prophecy"?

seriously?

are we supposed to take this seriously?

a reply to: zazen

i'd just like to highlight a point of specificity, if you don't mind....

the hair isn't stuck to the end of the barrel, it's snagged on the front sight, which would seem to indicate that the gun was pressed directly to his head, and the hair snagged on the front sight, and was ripped out, when the gun cycled.

a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

i spelled out all that mess about the conflicting COD between carver's report, and the official report, months ago, during another SH thread....i think it was the official report thread..

but yeah, it's still a point of contention....and carver is an odd one...laughing, and snickering, and saying all kinds of weird stuff during the press conference...odd behavior, indeed..

a reply to: RationalDespair

didn't the official report say that they recovered the likely suicide round, and that it was wedged in the corrugated tin in the ceiling?

that would suggest to me that either he did it himself(which would be awkward), or someone came up from behind and did him by surprise...

Something else problematic with the "suicide shot" is that the hole through the hat is not consistent with an exit wound from a skull. It is a small, neat hole showing no bullet expansion nor much traces of blood. After penetrating 2 layers of skull plus brain tissue the bullet should have expanded and deformed creating a hole several inches across that should have been very messy.

yet another clunker in the official story.

a reply to: DarksideOz

jesus christ, you are dense....did you even bother reading my reply to you?

i addressed most of what you were bitching i didn't...

and if i missed anything, it was either a genuine mistake, was an irrelevant point, or was subject matter that would get the thread shut, if discussed.

go re-read my reply, and then come back, ok? and preferably, with a calmer attitude...

a reply to: DarksideOz

would you stop that, you're going to get the thread shut.

a reply to: DarksideOz

I'm sorry, but I don't see the logical connection between your post and mine. I was simply envisioning what I think could have happened, according to the forensics. I don't see why Adam Lanza went "off the grid" as you suppose and what it has to do with anything I presented.

a reply to: Daedalus

I'm sorry, but I haven't gotten around to reading all the material yet, and this was previously unknown to me. If the "suicide" round was indeed pried from the ceiling, then my scenario is indeed not plausible.

However, it was more of a train of thought on how I imagined things went down that day. Taking into account the bullet hole in the hat, it's still plausible that he was shot and did not shoot himself, but I think you agree on that.

a reply to: RationalDespair

no worries, i MIGHT be mistaken on that....i need to recheck the materials(could take a while, because there's a lot)....OR if constantine sees this, and searches it, we'll get our answer sooner...

originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: RationalDespair

no worries, i MIGHT be mistaken on that....i need to recheck the materials(could take a while, because there's a lot)....OR if constantine sees this, and searches it, we'll get our answer sooner...

Nah bud, you're right — suicide bullet embedded found above the ceiling of Room #8
He shot himself in Room #10*


* CORRECTION: I'd mistakenly written “Room #8” in this post, but it's too late to edit. Shot himself from that impossible angle in Room #10. Bullet found above ceiling of Room #8.

a reply to: SMOKINGGUN2012

Why isn't it allowed here? Isn't that the point of the thread?

a reply to: troof

Because it is a crazy outlandish claim that carries no merit.
And it then calls the entire town liars and that is even crazier.
Go to the LOL or Hoax section if you need to have those discussions, plenty of people before the ones here that have presented that info

a reply to: Daedalus


No watch the part about the shop's being taken over by new owner's from out of town ignore the twit in the video
NEW barber's called sshh with a red hand on the logo

originally posted by: 3mperorConstantinE
a reply to: aivlas

Unless EMT's are known to undertake (completely undocumented) CPR+electrocardiographic attempts at resuscitation on a patient with rigor-mortis after having died of FOUR gunshot holes to their face … then I would be forced to ‘guess’ that they were put on:
before

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Glad I'm not the only one who is contemplating the implications of that oddity.

Incorrect assumption.

It is totally normal to apply the pads to confirm that there isn't a heartbeat. This then is a matter of record (it is all recorded) rather than just someone voicing an opinion. The fact that one of the pads was on a ARM would indicate that they had no intention of actually shocking them. (improper placement)

a reply to: douglas5

i'm aware of the shop...it's....um, i dunno, irrelevant?

originally posted by: westcoast
It is totally normal to apply the pads to confirm that there isn't a heartbeat. This then is a matter of record (it is all recorded) rather than just someone voicing an opinion. The fact that one of the pads was on a ARM would indicate that they had no intention of actually shocking them. (improper placement)

I know, and I have addressed that in more detail here.

If you are in the medical field, your thoughts on the questions posed in the ^linked post would be helpful.
I'd appreciate it.

originally posted by: NickDC202

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: NickDC202
*snip*

Update:
Here is a letter from Dawn Hochsprung to the SH parents detailing the new security protocol for 2012:

Wait....that's dated the same date as the shootings? So, they posted new security measures the same day??? Interesting coincidence.

No, the Hartford Courant published the letter (which was posted to the SHES website in the FAQ section) on the day of the shootings. The letter was sent to the parents at the start of the 2012-13 school year.

Thanks for clarifying that! That seemed a bit odd. Still an interesting coincidence that they posted it that same day. I wonder if that had anything to do with the timing of the event.

a reply to: Daedalus

It isn't just you. He looks so ordinary in that pic, and not crazy at all. I never saw that one before seeing it here. Of course, the press will always want the least flattering picture for anyone about whom the story is negative.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

of course, because it makes it harder to demonize someone, if they look normal....they've gotta use (or photoshop) a pic, that makes the person look as unstable, and evil as possible....

all those scary bedtime story picturebooks for kids wouldn't be scary, if the monsters looked like angels and unicorns...