All Americans are bound by the Constitution

a reply to: iosolomon

Certainly H Kissinger doesn't believe it applies to him and his globalist cohorts who've been busy shredding the Constitution almost from the day it was written . . .

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132."Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." Henry Kissinger, quoted by Bob Woodward in The Final Days, 1976
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133."The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." Henry Kissinger

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134."The Brady Bill's only effect will be to desensitize the public to regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation." Charles Krauthammer, Washington Post, April 5, 1996

a reply to: Leonidas

Of course it is at odds. Unconstitutional laws, are still null and void though.

Think. We are an oligarchy. That means the elite get what they want, which means the SCOTUS also is not doing their job. Nor has it been for quite some time. Do not trust all of thier rulings. Double check them.

Even Scalia is flipping out. Remember when we were talking about how bad he would be for the bench? I wish I could go back to that country, just for starters. That special time between the end of the Cold War, and the start of a new perpetual war, when everything about the future was brighter.

Research, do not just take everything as gospel. Especially now. Start at Senate report 93-549. Those powers were codified as acceptable into law, not revoked.

Back track from there. How did they become powers to begin with?

a reply to: Olivine

You did have to wait.

And you are not even close to being equal, today. Women's equality, not just rights, needs much discussion time.

The patroit act done away with all freedoms we believed we had except what we can convince scotus to agree on. At least that is how it seems to me.

I find it pitiful that anyone still thinks the Constitution is in reference to them. It does not apply to 99% of you.

Most of you, or anyone else for that matter, do not understand contract law and commerce because if you did you would not have a drivers license, SSN card, birth certificate, student id, car title/registration, home title/registration, land title/registration, cell phone contract, amongst a ridiculous long list of add-ons.

Most think they are Americans. Thats hilarious. Every time you fill out an applocation or contract, any application or contract, and you check that little box stating you are a "U.S. Citizen" you've just denounced "American" status but in reality you've never had American status because 99% of people (worldwide btw) don't know law or what it is.

There's so much I can say about the subject but get real folks, the Constitution as it pertains to 99% of you does not apply to you whatsoever.

Btw, when I say 99% I am not speaking about the economic difference between the haves and have nots.

a reply to: pissy

Yes, but amendments, because of the constitution and laws, gave women and blacks freedom. They became part of "We the People".

Now, the problem is "We the People". We give the power and our lives to representatives who do not represent the people. Just the Oligarchy.

a reply to: iosolomon

I don't know about you guys but I'm not bound to anything, I'm a free man. I understand what your trying to say though. The thing is people are too afraid to stand up for themselves. Government, Religion, Society...basically everything uses fear tactics to scare people into acting a certain way. It's called brainwashing. The biggest motivation for humans is fear, no wonder they use it so much.

originally posted by: Evanzsayz
I don't know about you guys but I'm not bound to anything, I'm a free man.

This is one of the most ignorant statements I have come across on ATS thus far. Again, I have to ask, "Are you guys just trolling me?" You are bound by Law, and the Law of this Land (if you live in America) is the United States Constitution.

And do you really think you are free? What makes you say that? What is freedom after all?

originally posted by: MoorishDescent
I find it pitiful that anyone still thinks the Constitution is in reference to them. It does not apply to 99% of you.

You would be mistaken. The Constitution is in reference to "We the People."

because 99% of people (worldwide btw) don't know law or what it is.

And do you think the 1% knows any better? Law was created by Man/Woman.

And if 99% of People don't know Law or what it is, then we need to teach them. Law should not be complicated or confusing or difficult to understand. If it is, then it can be used as a tool or weapon to control and oppress. So this was a naïve statement you have made, good sir (or madam, but judging by your arrogance, I doubt you are female).

There's so much I can say about the subject but get real folks, the Constitution as it pertains to 99% of you does not apply to you whatsoever.

I don't think you understand what "We the People" meant or the original intent of the Founding Fathers; chiefly, Benjamin Franklin. The Constitution was written so that the average American, who spilled their blood for it, could understand it. Today, we have come far from that intent of Benjamin Franklin, and Law has become this monster that is used against We the People.

As Thomas Jefferson said, "When We the People fear the Law, there is tyranny, but when the Law fears We the People, there is liberty." (Yes, he used government instead of Law, but the government is the Law.) So perhaps, you should really go educate yourself, and re-read the Constitution.

Are you of Moorish descent? It wouldn't shock me that you highly misconstrue things. The Moors have never historically been a wise People. Fools, like the rest of them, but arrogant fools, as your post has come across.

Btw, when I say 99% I am not speaking about the economic difference between the haves and have nots.

originally posted by: iosolomon

originally posted by: Evanzsayz
I don't know about you guys but I'm not bound to anything, I'm a free man.

This is one of the most ignorant statements I have come across on ATS thus far. Again, I have to ask, "Are you guys just trolling me?" You are bound by Law, and the Law of this Land (if you live in America) is the United States Constitution.

And do you really think you are free? What makes you say that? What is freedom after all?

simple..

"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose"

Kris Kristofferson - Me And Bobby Mcgee

originally posted by: iosolomon

originally posted by: MoorishDescent
I find it pitiful that anyone still thinks the Constitution is in reference to them. It does not apply to 99% of you.

You would be mistaken. The Constitution is in reference to "We the People."

because 99% of people (worldwide btw) don't know law or what it is.

And do you think the 1% knows any better? Law was created by Man/Woman.

And if 99% of People don't know Law or what it is, then we need to teach them. Law should not be complicated or confusing or difficult to understand. If it is, then it can be used as a tool or weapon to control and oppress. So this was a naïve statement you have made, good sir (or madam, but judging by your arrogance, I doubt you are female).

There's so much I can say about the subject but get real folks, the Constitution as it pertains to 99% of you does not apply to you whatsoever.

I don't think you understand what "We the People" meant or the original intent of the Founding Fathers; chiefly, Benjamin Franklin. The Constitution was written so that the average American, who spilled their blood for it, could understand it. Today, we have come far from that intent of Benjamin Franklin, and Law has become this monster that is used against We the People.

As Thomas Jefferson said, "When We the People fear the Law, there is tyranny, but when the Law fears We the People, there is liberty." (Yes, he used government instead of Law, but the government is the Law.) So perhaps, you should really go educate yourself, and re-read the Constitution.

Are you of Moorish descent? It wouldn't shock me that you highly misconstrue things. The Moors have never historically been a wise People. Fools, like the rest of them, but arrogant fools, as your post has come across.

Btw, when I say 99% I am not speaking about the economic difference between the haves and have nots.

Arrogance? Lol. Your hunches are incorrect.

And yes, one should learn the law because you are not exercising law or "under" law. What 99% of you are doing are following codes, statutes, and policies. There is a big difference which is precisely why you have no rights contrary to what you believe or feel. Now, take your naive statements and empty matter of factness somewhere else and take your ignorance with you. G'day!

originally posted by: iosolomon

originally posted by: MoorishDescent
I find it pitiful that anyone still thinks the Constitution is in reference to them. It does not apply to 99% of you.

You would be mistaken. The Constitution is in reference to "We the People."

because 99% of people (worldwide btw) don't know law or what it is.

And do you think the 1% knows any better? Law was created by Man/Woman.

And if 99% of People don't know Law or what it is, then we need to teach them. Law should not be complicated or confusing or difficult to understand. If it is, then it can be used as a tool or weapon to control and oppress. So this was a naïve statement you have made, good sir (or madam, but judging by your arrogance, I doubt you are female).

There's so much I can say about the subject but get real folks, the Constitution as it pertains to 99% of you does not apply to you whatsoever.

I don't think you understand what "We the People" meant or the original intent of the Founding Fathers; chiefly, Benjamin Franklin. The Constitution was written so that the average American, who spilled their blood for it, could understand it. Today, we have come far from that intent of Benjamin Franklin, and Law has become this monster that is used against We the People.

As Thomas Jefferson said, "When We the People fear the Law, there is tyranny, but when the Law fears We the People, there is liberty." (Yes, he used government instead of Law, but the government is the Law.) So perhaps, you should really go educate yourself, and re-read the Constitution.

Are you of Moorish descent? It wouldn't shock me that you highly misconstrue things. The Moors have never historically been a wise People. Fools, like the rest of them, but arrogant fools, as your post has come across.

Btw, when I say 99% I am not speaking about the economic difference between the haves and have nots.

Btw, I am not one of those who masquerade as Moor but know no laws, statutes, amd history.

While you sit and think the government is law (which shows your ignorance because law lies in one or those who are sovereign, not wards or corporate fictions of the state. Your "govermment" is a corporate fiction which you apparantly don't know), But typical of the average westerner or western taught individual you must bask in your ignorance and world events are proving your demise. Lol.

Now, g'day

a reply to: MoorishDescent

Yes, they are only a corporation, via Act of 1871.

But, what does Case Law say about such laws?

So, you are right about the unlawful government who wants us to believe the Constitution does not apply. Problem is, the people are always supreme, therefore, you are wrong. The Constitution applies, always. Article 6. Even in the face of unlawful governance.

"No provision of the Constitution is designed to be without effect, Anything that is in conflict is null and void of law, Clearly, for a secondary law to come in conflict with the supreme Law was illogical, for certainly, the supreme Law would prevail over all other laws and certainly our forefathers had intended that the supreme Law would be the basis of all law and for any law to come in conflict would be null and void of law, it would bare no power to enforce, in would bare no obligation to obey, it would purport to settle as if it had never existed, for unconstitutionality would date from the enactment of such a law, not from the date so branded in an open court of law, no courts are bound to uphold it, and no Citizens are bound to obey it. It operates as a near nullity or a fiction of law."

"The common law is the real law, the Supreme Law of the land, the code, rules, regulations, policy and statutes are not the law”, -- Self v. Rhay, 61 Wn (2d) 261

'The right of action created by statute relating to deprivation under color of law, of a right secured by the constitution and the laws of the United States and comes claims which are based solely on statutory violations of Federal Law and applied to the claim that claimants had been deprived of their rights, in some capacity, to which they were entitled." --Owen v. lndependence 100 Vol. Supreme Court Reports. 13981982); Main v. Thiboutot 100 Vol. Supreme Court Reports. 25021982)

"Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them". -- Miranda v. Arizona, 384 US 436, 491.

"There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of constitutional rights". --
Sherer v. Cullen, 481 F 946.

“Sovereignty itself is, of course, not subject to law, for it is the author and source of law;” -- Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 US 356, 370 (Undersigned is Sovereign and no court has challenged that status/standing)

Want more? Go researching.

a reply to: Kryties

The Above Network LLC is incorporated in Delaware, thus making it a U.S. company. While it's content is available all over the globe, it is bound by U.S. law.

I don't think the OP was being arrogant, just stating the fact that because this site is incorporated in the U.S.A., it must obey her constitution.

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The federal government is bound by the Constitution. Private industry is not. States are bound as specifically outlined in the Constitution as a contract with the Union, but the net purpose is to limit federal government and define its duties.

Prevailing law appears to be subjective, since the federal government has violated the Constitution for decades. I suspect that the ambiguity is deliberate by those who seek to control the population and inherently violate the Constitution. Those who claim that if a law becomes federal law, or if a state or local law becomes law and is not contested and proven to be unconstitutional, is in fact law, scare me. Unconstitutional is unconstitutional. And the worst of the worst is a supreme court that supports unconstitutional premises.

The federal government at this moment is challenging those who demand constitutional law. And the bottom line will be who prevails by means of force, because the federal government does not currently operate by law.

originally posted by: iosolomon
On this website, I am told:

Your freedom of speech argument is invalid, there is NO such thing on ATS. ATS is a private venue that is governed by the T&C. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Actually, this would be in error. ATS is bound by the Constitution. But I won't hash that issue. That's the least of my worries.

ATS is not bound by the constitution. The constitution only applies between the state and the individual. It does not apply to contracts between individuals or corporations.

This btw, is why the constitution is a failure of a document.

a reply to: Aazadan

The document was written by people for the people. The document has not failed, the people have. We gave all the power to 1% of the population, willingly. The rest of us have to work, send our children to fight their wars to keep it all going for them.

a reply to: lynxpilot

Wrong. Congress was to regulate commerce, IE business. That is why there is a push to have you accept corporations as people, so you cant regulate them, and their monopolies.

You were turned into a corporation, so they could regulate you. People cannot be regulated. You never asked why is your birth certificate issued by a bank note company? Look at the bottom of it.

Go research. Senate report 93-549 is clear. The powers listed in that report were not abolished, they were codified into law as acceptable.

a reply to: Aazadan

Are the servers located in the United States? Do they have to respond to legal requests if the paperwork is all in order? Then yes, they are. Article 6 is supreme. No exceptions.

You agree to limit your rights here willfully, per terms and conditions. That is why you must agree. It is contract law.

Learn how the law is supposed to be operating, not how the oligarchy wants you to believe how it runs.

a reply to: MoorishDescent

Your "government" is a corporate fiction which you apparently don't know

There is reality-how-it-is, and there is reality-how-it-should be. This thread was dedicated to the latter.

The United States Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, as Abraham Lincoln interpreted, allows for a government "of the People, by the People, for the People." Borrowing Abraham Lincoln's interpretation, and the very fact the Constitution says, "We the People," I correctly surmise that it applies to ALL American.

I do not know why you feel the need to lecture me on unrelated matters to this thread. You call me ignorant, but you have missed the very foundation of my argument. You have used the straw man/woman fallacy here, and that is the real ignorance. So please ensure that your posts remain on point in the future. Thank you.