Charles Barkley on NBA: 'We are a black league. We are a black league"

originally posted by: AKINOFTHEFIRSSTARS
a reply to: butcherguy

The quote wasn't from you and it wasn't for you.

It is a continuance of racism.

I will let you rest with that one.

I like how you took the nice little 'lines' that do NOT fit into your world. But, I guess my job here is done, because you refuse to mention my whole post which lets me know, It stuck with you and you found it to be true.
Peace and Blessings.

The way you constructed your post, it would appear that I said those things, as you attributed me at the beginning of your post and no one else.

We all live in our own world to some extent. I think our world would be a much better one if people quit using race as a divisive thing. That goes for everyone, whether they are black, white, Asian or Hispanic.

I don't understand why you are trying to paint me as a racist when you are the one promulgating racism.

you know i remember when this guy,,



used too say nasty things about the white man in America.

And we luved him,, , well at least i did.

Even after he changed his ,name,,

Because i respected him.

Not for his color but for his kaleidoscopic utterences, in true mezmorizing style.

Maybe thats whats missing today,,

style,, u know class.

Why can't someone be racist? It's just their opinion and they have the right, the freedom to think whatever they want. If you don't like it then don't root for the Clippers. I won't listen to Jay Z because he obviously hates white people. But many people do listen to him. Many white people listen to him. The double standard has been used against whites for many years now.

Given what is happening all over the world and at home, excuse me if I am less than enthusiastic about the plight of the NBA:

A dispute between rich athletes and uber-rich owners.

It all strikes me as 1st World Problems.

originally posted by: Fylgje
Why can't someone be racist?

They can be. They're just going to get a bunch of feedback about it. Freedom goes both ways.

The double standard has been used against whites for many years now.

Let me know when that number reaches 200 years.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Let me know when that number reaches 200 years.

I certainly get this. But doesn't it sound like payback?

a reply to: butcherguy

I don't get it at all, mostly because of all the slave trades, that we have historical records of, the US slave trade was not even remotely close to the largest or the longest running...

FFS, the Barbary's had a larger (and longer) slave trade, and they were considered a MINOR presence.

originally posted by: Fylgje
Why can't someone be racist? It's just their opinion and they have the right, the freedom to think whatever they want.

They can and are as this thread obviously demonstrates....


I would respect someone that could admit their racism. Rather than make excuses for others racism; to hide their own hatred of people different than themselves; racially, politically, religiously, or any other category that makes America a diverse culture.

The times they are a changin...........

Want peace???? Work for justice!

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: Fylgje
Why can't someone be racist?

They can be. They're just going to get a bunch of feedback about it. Freedom goes both ways.

The double standard has been used against whites for many years now.

Let me know when that number reaches 200 years.

By "200 years" dont you mean 400?

Yes, someone can be racist. But the Freedom to be racist is not "Free" from consequences.

a reply to: olaru12

That u Eric??



lol

" Want peace???? Work for justice! "

lol

a reply to: captaintyinknots

No, the NAACP is ...

Most of us are confused regarding the term racism...being as people now lump prejudice, bigotry and ignorance.

I've actually begun to school blacks and other minorities to stop using the term "racism" as it's too confusing AND allows the people we aim at to wiggle out. The correct term to use is "White Supremacy" which is REALLY the issue.

The problems associated with racism range from systematic oppression (the claim against white people) to what is basically name calling (attributed to minorities).

originally posted by: FlyersFan
So is THIS a racist statement? Charles Barkley stated 'We are a black league. We are a black league' during a TV interview when asked about the LA Clippers situation. If some people think that the Clippers owner should be punished for making racial remarks in a private conversation ... then what about this very public statement that ignores the 22% of non-black NBA players as well as the non-black owners and workers in the NBA? Is it racist to make the statement 'We are a black league' ... and then double down and say it again? If not ... why not?

Charles Barkley - 'We Are A Black League

Barkley called on NBA Commissioner Adam Silver to “suspend him and fine him immediately,” and made the obvious point that you can’t have a racist owner in a sport where the overwhelming majority of players are black. He said, “We cannot have an owner discriminating against a league that––we’re a black league, Ernie. We are a black league.”

- Barkley said the owner was discriminating against the league. However, there is no evidence of that in this situation. The owner was taped in a private conversation with his ex-girlfriend (who is accused of stealing 2 million $$ from the family).

- 78% of NBA players are black.

There are 28 black NHL players .. but no one goes around on tv saying 'We are a white league. We are a white league'. If they did, they'd be nailed to the floor and stomped on. (and rightfully so).

And why is (Nets owner) Jay Z allowed to be racist against whites and to basically make anti-white statements in public with his bling ... (see the thread here - Jay Z Racism - Does it Matter? but the LA Clippers owner isn't allowed to make racist statements in private conversations?

Double standard? Racism by Charles Barkley and Jay Z?
Or is the Barkley 'we are a black league' statement and the Jay Z anti-white bling just fine?

Side Note -

Just the fact that this stuff is in the news when there are real issues to deal with around the world ... I wonder if THAT is the real story here - people getting distracted by alleged racism on the part of a white guy (while ignoring the racism from the black guys) ... distraction from what Russia is doing and what Obama is doing and from the serious issues ... I"m wondering about the distraction aspect of all this nonsense.

Is there a double standard? Of course there is. Of course blacks and other minorities in this country can get away with saying certain things simply because they don't wield the power of white supremacy. It's that way in just about every relationship between entities where one is clearly the dominant force.

Does it suck? Perhaps, but come on, you can't cry about everything when you wield the power.

It would be comparable to the black players in the NBA getting angry because the white players complained about something....well almost...because while the white players are minority on a sports team. They are still apart of the dominant society.

a reply to: butcherguy


I can honestly see the misunderstanding.

We all live in our own world to some extent. I think our world would be a much better one if people quit using race as a divisive thing. That goes for everyone, whether they are black, white, Asian or Hispanic.

It's the end of the world now that the whole world is just following suit. These are the rules of Western/European people that operate under the misnomer 'white' , now that everyone came out to play, whites complain more than people who actually suffered and are still suffering by the hands of racism. Its very amusing to hear/read these complaints. Its like throwing a grain of rice (so called black racism) at a mountain (historical racism to present times)
The European Western world laid down the foundation for this. Now its wants to retract without discussion. This is impossible. Its like going into a casino, where they play cards, the casino deals and the dealer complains about the cards you have in your hand.

Indigenous people across "Earth" have been saying this quote above since the beginning of time.

I don't understand why you are trying to paint me as a racist when you are the one promulgating racism.

Really?? Every post I write (go back and read) I am just stating the real truth, not the pc, washed up, pretty truth. That ole ugly one no one wants to speak on, that's been under the rug. Racist put themselves in the ignorant boat. Excuse me for trying to 'promulge' ( I learned a new word today and I hope I used it correctly) the truth in its true form.
Deny Ignorance.
Peace and Blessings.

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
Basketball is a black sport tho... Don't see anything wrong with anybody stating the obvious and being truthful?

I don't know many people with an interest in the sport other than black Americans and some wannabe black teenagers

The Asians love the ping pong

The Indians love the cricket

Although they don't have there roots as a sport in those countries they have embraced it as a national sport or cultural sport

Excellent point. As a black guy I have no problem with someone saying hockey is a white sport. Far as I'm concerned it is.

a reply to: mark1167

They did not get caught with Bundy. As a matter of fact, he clarified what he said several times. He meant what he said, exactly how he said it.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: luciddream
I think it would take heavy manipulation to even bring this to Bundy's level.
Which is think will not happen.

Of course it won't get the same outrage as the Bundy statements. Bundy is white. Barkley is black. So is Jay Z. Neither of them will get 'the scrutiny' by folks for fear of being labeled 'racist' for daring to point out when a black person makes a racist statement.

Let me remove some of the deflections "suspected white supremists" attempt to throw at people.

Racism, if black people are capable of it, depending upon the definition, is a far cry from legalized and systematic racism. If a black person is racist in this country how many white people can they hurt?

Really simple question.

Now if a white person is racist, how many black people can they hurt?

Now if you're smart, I should need to go no further...

originally posted by: Fylgje
Why can't someone be racist? It's just their opinion and they have the right, the freedom to think whatever they want. If you don't like it then don't root for the Clippers. I won't listen to Jay Z because he obviously hates white people. But many people do listen to him. Many white people listen to him. The double standard has been used against whites for many years now.

People are absolutely free to be racist if they want.

That doesnt mean they are free from the court of public opinion.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: captaintyinknots

No, the NAACP is ...

Im glad that you have an issue with the NAACP.

It is fairly irrelevant to this topic.

originally posted by: jhn7537
As a white NBA fan, who's watched the sport for a very long time, I have zero problem with what Barkley said. He was being honest and the truth of it is that the NBA is dominated by african-american players. Both by star power and by % in the league. I think people are a little too PC nowadays...

No people aren't too PC, most of us normal people know exactly what was being said and have no problem with it.

The people who have the problem with the statement are "suspected white supremists". Or I guess one other option are just plain ignorant. Don't know which they would prefer.

What they are doing is comparable to convicted murderers pointing the finger at state executioners and saying, "But you kill people tooooooo!" They attempt to deflect any responsibility away from themselves.

It's all in the name of White Supremacy, that game demands you have EVERY advantage! And then on top of that you must pretend as if the field is even. You can't admit to white supremacy else you may be taken to task for it. You will be made to realize that your notions of "lazy blacks" is invalid. Basically your entire rhetoric falls apart.