Cure For Hepaitits C has been found !!! But it will cost you $100,000

So they have finally found a cure. A pill you take for 12 weeks. Some will need 24 weeks. Low side effects, the same as an aspirin. The FDA will approve this drug very soon.

My husbands father died from this. It is exciting news, but the makers want $1,000 a PILL!
I understand that they need money for their research , etc, but this is way out there!!!

So many people denied something that can save their life because of price. People are thinking that insurance companies will no cover it, unless your in end stage liver failure, which at the point you can not undo the liver damage.

Good news for the future when the patent runs out, but bad news for those who need it now.

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So disgusting.

But Johns Hopkins' Thomas says society should consider the cost of forgoing treatment. "If we fail to provide treatment to an expanding population of persons at risk of cirrhosis and liver cancer, then we'll have even greater costs," he says. "And they won't all be economic."

Yeah, let's just let them DIE because some asshat pharmaceutical company decided on a 90 THOUSAND dollar price tag for treatment.

~Tenth

Isn't it funny that the cure for most things, is boat loads of cash.

Disease, Cash.

Justice, or lack there off, Cash.

Food to live, Cash.

You know, this will probably get me tar and feathered.

But Im all for Capitalism on luxury, Socialism on Staple goods (Utility, water, basic subsidize housing).

Flat tax, dump it all into education.

Hell who knows, might get a Cheaper cure for just about everything if we simply educated our young for a start.

Science, Research, Education, will cure all the ills of our society, we just need to make it a priority.

amatrine
Good news for the future when the patent runs out, but bad news for those who need it now.

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It's good news for those that need it now, because it exists. Before, it didn't even exist. This is an improvement and, thus, good news.

It is a shame that money always seems to matter more than human lives. And we call ourselves human?

amatrine
So they have finally found a cure. A pill you take for 12 weeks. Some will need 24 weeks. Low side effects, the same as an aspirin. The FDA will approve this drug very soon.

My husbands father died from this. It is exciting news, but the makers want $1,000 a PILL!
I understand that they need money for their research , etc, but this is way out there!!!

So many people denied something that can save their life because of price. People are thinking that insurance companies will no cover it, unless your in end stage liver failure, which at the point you can not undo the liver damage.

Good news for the future when the patent runs out, but bad news for those who need it now.

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You do realize that a major portion of the cost of a new drug is based on FDA trial rules, right? Methinks your ire is directed at the wrong institution.

FurvusRexCaeli

amatrine
Good news for the future when the patent runs out, but bad news for those who need it now.

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It's good news for those that need it now, because it exists. Before, it didn't even exist. This is an improvement and, thus, good news.

Well said. However there are those who say if it's not free, it is an abomination, even though it would not even exist otherwise.

I know that this won't win me many fans.

but,

the fact that they seem to have found a cure for this horrible illness in itself should be something to celebrate.

As for the cost, it sucks, but at the end of the day producing and getting approval these medications costs a hell of a lot and these companies are not doing it for charity nor are the amazing people they employ who develop these medications.

At the end of the day everyone needs to be paid for the work they have done.

benrl
Isn't it funny that the cure for most things, is boat loads of cash.

Disease, Cash.

Justice, or lack there off, Cash.

Food to live, Cash.

You know, this will probably get me tar and feathered.

But Im all for Capitalism on luxury, Socialism on Staple goods (Utility, water, basic subsidize housing).

Flat tax, dump it all into education.

Hell who knows, might get a Cheaper cure for just about everything if we simply educated our young for a start.

Science, Research, Education, will cure all the ills of our society, we just need to make it a priority.

You mean that stuff costs stuff? OMG what a revelation!!! I used to think that stuff just rained down from the sky like manna, and it was just the man keeping us down. I never imagined that it actually cost resources and time for a farmer to grow food or a researcher to develop a new drug. Man, I was fooled, thinking that, in order to produce something, someone else had to invest time and resources. Now that you inform me it grows on trees, I will adjust my outlook on life. #! I'm not moving any more, bring my food to me.

OtherSideOfTheCoin
I know that this won't win me many fans.

but,

the fact that they seem to have found a cure for this horrible illness in itself should be something to celebrate.

As for the cost, it sucks, but at the end of the day producing and getting approval these medications costs a hell of a lot and these companies are not doing it for charity nor are the amazing people they employ who develop these medications.

At the end of the day everyone needs to be paid for the work they have done.

edit on 12-4-2014 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)

I tip my hat to you, sir. As a voice of reason.

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I agree that the news is wonderful!! I also know they do not do this for free. I was reading an article on this , that they could sell the pill at $250 and make a HUGE HUGE profit, but the maker itself wants $1,000 a pill because of the implication of it curing so many people, being so huge that they want that much more. Even $250 is a lot , but $1,000 is outrageous.

With ACA compliant insurance policies that cover pre-existing conditions...

Shouldn't this be "covered" ???

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that they could sell the pill at $250 and make a HUGE HUGE profit, but the maker itself wants $1,000 a pill because of the implication of it curing so many people, being so huge that they want that much more. Even $250 is a lot , but $1,000 is outrageous.

Now that is interesting..... if you have a link that details the profit margins of this new drug.

But this is another way to look at it, say its going to cost about $100,000 for 12 weeks of medication to cure you of hep-c, would that not be cheaper and have a better cost-benifit ratio that saying spending 30 years of your life in and out of hospital with complications?

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I am wondering the same thing too. Though I am sure they can make a protocol as to at what stage it becomes something they have to pay for.

NavyDoc


You mean that stuff costs stuff? OMG what a revelation!!! I used to think that stuff just rained down from the sky like manna, and it was just the man keeping us down. I never imagined that it actually cost resources and time for a farmer to grow food or a researcher to develop a new drug. Man, I was fooled, thinking that, in order to produce something, someone else had to invest time and resources. Now that you inform me it grows on trees, I will adjust my outlook on life. #! I'm not moving any more, bring my food to me.

Sorry if Id rather the gov handle our tax money better, make smarter investment.

Have it actually benefits the Citizen over corporate interest.

Instead of you know an over budgeted world police, perhaps let it go to research and education.

If we had a system where education was prized above all else most of the problems we have would vanish.

benrl

NavyDoc


You mean that stuff costs stuff? OMG what a revelation!!! I used to think that stuff just rained down from the sky like manna, and it was just the man keeping us down. I never imagined that it actually cost resources and time for a farmer to grow food or a researcher to develop a new drug. Man, I was fooled, thinking that, in order to produce something, someone else had to invest time and resources. Now that you inform me it grows on trees, I will adjust my outlook on life. #! I'm not moving any more, bring my food to me.

Sorry if Id rather the gov handle our tax money better, make smarter investment.

Have it actually benefits the Citizen over corporate interest.

Instead of you know an over budgeted world police, perhaps let it go to research and education.

If we had a system where education was prized above all else most of the problems we have would vanish.

You honestly believe that the government is a more efficient and smarter investment? Seriously? Really? You don't trust them to make military decisions but you trust them with healthcare R&D? Really? Are you drunk or just having me on?

According to this report from the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid, the cost to treat all Americans who have hepatitis C with Sovaldi would cost $227 billion—it currently costs $260 billion a year for all drugs bought in the country.

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I wish I can can find that article on the price and profit There were so many I read. I need to go look for it.

Here is more information on it here. They do say they have a program for those who are un-insurable , but with everyone being required to have insurance how will that play out, if it is denied by your insurance, and you still can not pay.

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NavyDoc


You honestly believe that the government is a more efficient and smarter investment? Seriously? Really? You don't trust them to make military decisions but you trust them with healthcare R&D? Really? Are you drunk or just having me on?

Honestly, I think rampant spending on education.

Is far less dangerous than rampant spending on war.

Lets see, lets keep building tanks we don't need, so we don't lose jobs...

Thats a recent headline, how about this, lets higher more educators instead of building tanks, (a gov subsidized supposed free market right).

Maybe get some long term value out of pissing away cash, you know educate a child, instead of tanks that no one wants.

But that takes hard choices like cutting those SUBSIDIZED manufacturing jobs.

SO YEA less government is always better, but we can certainly point this bloated wasteful Gov spending at a less socially damaging direction.


ETA:

The US is losing all competitive edge in the Sciences, because our youth are under educated, its a horrible trend.

It means things like advanced research into disease come at a much higher cost, in the end its all industry, and id rather subsidize the one that Heals man, not kills it.

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You can go to places like India and pay only a $150 per pill instead of paying $1000 per pill in the states.

benrl

NavyDoc


You honestly believe that the government is a more efficient and smarter investment? Seriously? Really? You don't trust them to make military decisions but you trust them with healthcare R&D? Really? Are you drunk or just having me on?

Honestly, I think rampant spending on education.

Is far less dangerous than rampant spending on war.

Lets see, lets keep building tanks we don't need, so we don't lose jobs...

Thats a recent headline, how about this, lets higher more educators instead of building tanks, (a gov subsidized supposed free market right).

Maybe get some long term value out of pissing away cash, you know educate a child, instead of tanks that no one wants.

But that takes hard choices like cutting those SUBSIDIZED manufacturing jobs.

SO YEA less government is always better, but we can certainly point this bloated wasteful Gov spending at a less socially damaging direction.

Given that, would you not agree that keeping that same bloated and wasteful government out of our healthcare is also a good idea?