Historic Breaking News: Canada, Vatican & Crown GUILTY of Genocide

a reply to: windword

However, it is policy of church and state to keep these issues hidden

What is wrong with you?

You've been told of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, you've been told of the acknowledgement of wrongdoing and formal apologies by the Canadian government, the Vatican and other Canadian churches, you've been told of the $1.8 billion in settlement for former students, and you've been shown any number of other facts associated with this scandal.

You don't live in Canada, so the fact that you didn't know about it is due to your ignorance, nothing more, because it is NOT the policy of church and state to keep these issues hidden -- they've been out in the open for almost a hundred years, and been directly addressed and answered for since the mid 1990s.

a reply to: adjensen

What's wrong with you? Why did you interject your personal review of the the new Pope's new book/interview in thread about church and state atrocities? Aren't you trying to change the subject make the (new) Catholic Church and the Pope out to be innocent as angels? Prosylitize much?

the fact that you didn't know about it is due to your ignorance

And, I'm ignorant no more, thanks, mostly to Kevin Annett!

they've been out in the open for almost a hundred years, and been directly addressed and answered for since the mid 1990s.

Yeah right! The Catholic Church was up front about their genocide agenda in 1914! What is wrong with you?!

a reply to: windword

the thread is actually about the "trial" that Annett is holding right now in his attic. Not about any atrocities and certainly not about anyone that is currently alive.

Now, a little history lesson for you. Annett states that in 1914 or thereabouts the Vatican sanctioned all of this. He specifically refers to the Vatican State in his "complaint" There's a really large problem with that, Vatican City and the Holy See (the sovereign entities that are the Vatican State) didn't come into existence until 1929 and even then it was a very tenuous relationship with Benito Mussolini and the Kingdom of Italy. The modern arrangement that the Vatican has with Italy (the Italian Republic) was ratified only in 1984 and has very strict definitions that both nations must adhere to.

So for Annett to have a trial against "the Vatican" that didn't even exist at the time of the incident is just one indication of how little he cares for fact..

(Also remember in 1914, World War One was going on, the Ottoman Empire still existed, the German Empire still existed, Austria-Hungary was still a unified nation, and Canada was not an independent nation, but rather a Crown Dependency...)

Little bits of historical fact that Kevin seems to ignore to make his own warped points..

a reply to: vkey08

the thread is actually about the "trial" that Annett is holding right now in his attic. Not about any atrocities and certainly not about anyone that is currently alive.

From the OP:

I came across this article about massive deaths of Aboriginal children in Canada. They have officially admitted it.
Canada, the British Crown and the Vatican stand guilty as charged.

Sorry for the short commentary in my OP, (I'm getting ready for work.) but I thought this needed to be shared!

There is much more in this article. Read it here:
asheepnomore.net...

This thread is about the atrocities commited by the Canadian government, the Crown and the Vatican.

These people are very much alive. The settlement money went to victims that are alive. The perpetrators too, many of them are still alive and should be put on trial. The social damage and suffering that was done carries on down to the children of these victims as well. And, this garbage was was going on in the residential schools while I was growing up. Many of the victims are my age, and their children, my daughter's age. They/we need to speak for those who were murdered under the watch of the church and state.

Vatican City and the Holy See (the sovereign entities that are the Vatican State) didn't come into existence until 1929

So what? The damage that the Vatican is responsible for, in the Canadian case, happened during their "new" empirical reign! And, besides it's not the like Vatican didn't exist as a global authority before that. "The Pope" has enjoyed infallibility and global supremacy over all of humanity, whether or not humanity consented, for hundreds and hundreds of years.

As a sovereign state, that planned and methodically carried out genocide, kidnapping and torture, the Vatican should be held accountable, in some way, by the global community. They shouldn't be above the law or retribution. They certainly shouldn't prosper from it.

So for Annett to have a trial against "the Vatican" that didn't even exist at the time of the incident is just one indication of how little he cares for fact..

"The incident"?????? This isn't about an "incident"!

Anyway, that's just not true. The Vatican has been the official papal residence and headquarters of the Catholic Church since 1377.

the thread is actually about the "trial" that Annett is holding right now in his attic. Not about any atrocities and certainly not about anyone that is currently alive.

This thread is about Kevin Annett only so far that he is the one that is bringing the issues into mainstream awareness. He may be a self obsessed kook, but is not the one responsible for the atrocities that he is shouting about from street corners. The atrocities that the Catholic church has and continues to commit are coming to light more and more every day. Don't think that we know everything they've done now. I have no doubt that there going to be another shoe that will drop, and another one after that.

This is issue is not one to be taken lightly, dismissed or argued. The guilty and complicit should be hunted down and put on trial the likes of Nuremberg! And, yes the Queen, Canadian government officials involved, priests, nuns, bishops, cardinals and popes need to be held accountable too.

Wow the koolaid runs deep in here.
www.genuinewitty.com...

Look at the tape in the photo, and look at the sourcing -- where people can get at the truth. Kevin annett does not source the vast majority of the things he says. He has a book, filled with documents, that he used to turn the indigenous' misfortune into a money mill for himself. That same book uses a picture of a child from bangledesh with small pox on the cover. He is a sick man. I listen to him, and almost everything coming out of that man's mouth is lies. He smears almost everybody that criticizes him. Seems he has a lot of people that work closely with him that turn on him -- and it has nothing to do with them being bought, and everything to do with them discovering just how full of crap he is.

Kevin hijacked the cause, and spun it in favor of the socialists.... Which makes sense since he is a poli-sci major from UBC, and one of the founders of the international socialist's presence there.

I personally caught that idiot posing as jeremiah jourdain and had kate of gaia apologize to me on global fact radio live on air, after 1 year of her denying what was so obvious in front of her face.... Kevin annett's followers are brainwashed, led by the nose hairs for their hate of catholicism, hate for the pope, and hate for the royals. Kevin feeds off that hate and uses it, he feeds off of the indigenous hate for colonialism and uses it.

The man is a professionally trained mind rapist in every sense, and those that follow him, rarely if ever are convinced to use a critical eye until they get burned by him -- that's how I've watched countless people snap out of his web of BS.

Check out this, birds of a feather:
deanclifford.info...

And here's my prediction of what dean was the moment he was arrested and did not apply his expert legal knowledge:
dissembling.org...

The sovereign movements have been around for quite some time, but what is new (as far as I've noticed) is that it started to get hijacked by socialist bootlicking nutjobs. Freemen and sovereigns are supposed to be rational, logical people -- the followers of Kevin Annett make the whole movement look like a joke!

The more one digs into the world of activism, the more one realizes just how setup and fake it largely is.

a reply to: windword

I just watched the video that you linked...
wow.

Thanks for posting that.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs


Your welcome. The world is still waiting for the Pope's apologies and the repeal of the "Doctrine of Discovery"

The Onondaga Nation of New York is calling on Pope Francis, the new leader of the Catholic Church, to repeal the Doctrine of Discovery.

The doctrine arose from a series of papal bulls that were used to justify the taking of lands held by Indian nations. It has been cited by the U.S. Supreme Court has in numerous cases, including Oliphant v. Suquamish Indian Tribe, which has been partially fixed by the recognition of limited tribal jurisdiction over non-Indians in S.47, a bill to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

“The doctrine of discovery put us in the same place as the buffaloes and rabbits, roaming the land,” said Oren Lyons, a faith keeper of the Onondaga Nation, told The New York Daily News. “We didn't have right of title to land, but rather occupancy.”

Native Americans to new Pope: Recant the ‘Discovery Doctrine,’ which gave Catholics dominion over New World
Papal bull from 1400s treated American Indians as cattle. Ruling still applies today.
indianz.com...

Well, according to these Mohawk elders, the ones coming from the community that Kevin Annett is supposedly helping, they consider him a fraud, who has been sharing misinformation under fake native names. I trust their authority. See for yourself.
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