Vogt and the twelve thousand year cycle

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originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Halfswede

originally posted by: bluemooone44
This may be why Elon is so desperate to get us to Mars. Hopefully we have enough time.

This part I don't understand. There is plenty of desolate, currently inhospitable land right here that already has an atmosphere that we can live in. Seems like that would be the place to focus rather than taking a millenia terraforming on Mars before even basic survivable atmosphere. Just my $ 0.02.

This is about surviving the 12000 year cycles ending cataclysm. Doom porn sites are all over the possibility of the Earth physically flipping the poles after a Solar Nova that is due soon. THAT is the reason the rich will "hide in caves" in the end time event described in Revelations.

So the rich will hide from the Creator in a cave? Surely that will work... I don't think Revelation is going to be dodged that easily.

I focus on what I can change. There is little I can do to survive a world wide event anyway. I do not have a bunker, but I do have supplies to last a smaller disaster but nothing like this. I am "older" anyway, my chances of surviving a major decade long disaster is not feasible. I am not scared of dying, but I am kind of leary of suffering for too long. I am going to stay in this world until I cannot do it anymore. I still have more to learn before I graduate from this life. I could die tonight, I could live another thirty years too. I just hope when the time comes, I go with no regrets of what I have done.

A lot of people are creating their hell on earth because they are focusing on their wants and desires and not their needs. Treating yourself to a want or desire occasionally is not a problem, just live within your means. It will make your future less stressful and your regrets will not overpower your life. I know so many people who have made their life into hell over the years, some make it back out, but most just stick themselves back into hell again when they get out. They believe they have learned from their mistakes...sure, they got craftier and lost their soul.

Is this cycle going to hit us in the near future? I do not know. The fact that the government is blowing so much money they are making out of thin air now makes me believe something is happening in the near future. There are just so many possibilities and the ones at the top think most of us are not very smart....they are definitiely correct with that. But I would much rather hang around with people who are not real smart but are honest and have integrity than with most of those in DC or who own corrupt corporations. I will not challenge them though, because it would make my life hell since they own the deck and deal the cards I am forced to play with. My dad said it simpler, he said you cannot fight city hall. That was not limited to government, he also distrusted the screwed up interpretations of science they were pushing back in the sixties. It is no better now and I would actually say it is worse. Technology has made everything more complicated not less these days. For a while it was helping us, now it is just used to control us.

a reply to: rickymouse

We do have a nice theory on ATS which has it's pros and cons, that human civilisation has reached its peak and collapsed before a few times, a twelve thousand year cycle is interesting because it would account for the different architecture ,with regards to monolithic preceding a more cruder style. Geometric patterns on the bottom of oceans thousands of feet deep.But if this is actually a known event in a few circles then its a no brainer that a plan to survive them would have a paramount importance.Those in the know would have had to exist for a period of roughly ninety thousand years that is the length of the Ice ages, to do this would require advanced knowledge and very high tech .If this is a fact and ice ages are , and if they come on with the rapidity that Vogt is suggesting, then it would have to be an almost certain fact that a parallel civilisation exists. Somewhere on this planet .that could be the greatest secret, and to keep a good secret it would have to be, that nobody would believe when confronted with it. As Charles Fort suggested , we might be owned, and the clues exist on the limits of our imagination, and the anomolies in the natural world ,where the high tech appears like magic and is dismissed.
Just to top it off "Dutch" predicted the East coast Earthquake , a really rare event, and since then he has been under a bot attack and all his other warnings have been removed as the activity seems to be increasing.

IMO, quakes are most definitely associated with Solar activity. Quakes we suspect are DUMBs being obliterated at specific depths have been in a tight range of data around 4.5-5's. Plenty of that lately that could be natural. It could also be said that it would be naturally logical to rid the rodents from under your dwellings too.

a reply to: Justoneman

"The part of the Earth that faces the sun on that day will be scorched, water vaporized instantly into clouds and the crust loosens its grip on the mantle "



somewhere in my past 50 years i remember reading about.....

3 days of darkness ..very cold
sun rising in the west
coming catyclysm,
pole flips
and earthquake to level the mountains greater than ever before

so,,,
3 days of darkness maybe from bible, we are supposed to keep
windows and doors closed, dont go out, maybe from toxic space dust?
space dust could make it dark 3 days, might not even see it coming
but,...

pole flips, sun rises in west:
3 days of darkness could mean earths magnetic pole stops,
like astronaught training chair, a circle inside 2 more spinning
every which way, suddenly stops and reverses like a dynamo
is it strong enough to stop the earth seeing all the magnetic
rocks and steel on outer crust?

if earth stops for 3 days, it will be sunny 3 days straight on
opposite side of earth, surely burning EVERYTHING especially
in summer,,, and explains the cold during 3 nights

if earth does stop spinning....
the oceans WILL KEEP GOING washing everything
off the face of earth,, take a glass and spin until water spins,,,
stop spinning, ..water goes on a few trips around

like that dynamo magnetic field, maybe even reverses 1-2 times
causing 3 days darkness and sun rising in the west, and back again

end of revelation torture is "earthquake greater than any other before,
leveling mountains, no stone left unturned"

that could be geography shift, oh, i forgot one....
""the northern hemisphere shall see the southern stars""
theres all of them wrapped in one


then,.... theres FRACKING, very hi pressures and slippery fluids
pushed deep into the bedrocks and cracking them into tiny rocks,
then you have that flood from earth 3 days darkness, completely
saturating the top of the land.... add in that nasty earthquake
strongest one ever, and you got...................LIQUIFACTION, like quicksand

"and the mountains crumble into the sea"

a reply to: confuzedcitizen

I really don't think it will be that bad. Some parts of the Earth have flora and Fauna which has been evolving since they broke away from the original mega continents. For that to happen they would have had to remain pretty undisturbed. New Zealand and Australia were all connected to Antarctica at one stage, and Scotland to Canada , New Zealand never had mega fauna , but Australia did and lost them the same as America which sort of suggests a food supply problem for the bigger animals.

SpaceX mission statement reads something like this..

-To establish a space-faring multi- planet species.-




a reply to: Halfswede

a reply to: annonentity

So this is why the smart people live inside the Earth and
tell our dumbasses that's where hell is, knowing there is only
so much room in the inner Earth.

Then the ant people send humans out from "The Garden" Shambala,
Agartha, Shangrila, innert Earth what have you. To replenish the Earth.

Only with catastrophe does the world make sense. Or am I just
trippin?

a reply to: Astrocometus

The real and natural climate of the Earth ninety percent of the time, is that of an Ice age.It might be no stretch of the imagination that to survive it you have to live with it. I't would make sense if a race of beings were adapted they would be in Antarctica or the colder regions. They would also have a longer history of technology, than us recently barely evolved apes.