Drug Cartels

I was watching this show we have here called 'free talk'. There was a doctor on there who was talking about a cancer clinic in Mexico he had the joy of visiting. He met with the other doctors and learned about what they do with the patients. They have them on a diet and exercise program and everything is mostly natural. They use some extract that comes from apricots as medicine (he said the name of it, but I can't remember). At any rate, their success rate is 80-90%!!!

He asked why this clinic isn't in the journal of medicine, why it isn't known worldwide. Surely, with such an amazing success rate, it should be. The answer?

Drug Cartels.

And what makes you think that it's drug cartels?
It's possibly believable but also there are indians that practice medicine using herbs I know a couple of doctors in Mexico that are Mayan decent who still practice this and heal people with herbs.
and also dieting.

Thats what the doctor on the show said. He was talking about how we use way too many unnecessary, non working drugs. How we have an average of ten different prescriptions per year.

Then he told of this story. Yes, he said that many many people use herbs and natural healing and have much better success than modern medicine.

I'm sorry .. I don't think I explained myself well enough.

Drug cartels want to sell drugs to the medical world .. even if they are drugs we don't need. So therefore, they try to make sure that the stories and success rates of such places like this cancer clinic do not become known worldwide.

But what connections it has with Drug Cartels?

I know Healing Clinics in Mexico that it is low key and they are healers who practice using herbs and also spiritual techniques that was protrayed for centuries.
Drug Cartels actually do Make businesses with the medical world.
doctors in Mexico use the old techniques
maybe the modern doctors use Narcotics,but I sure know about most of the doctors use herbal techniques because I go to Mexico and talk to healers questioning their techniques and they even showed me some techniques.

what i'm saying is that the drug cartels want to control this from getting out into the media. they don't want this cancer clinic on the front page of the medical journal so they make sure it doesn't get there.

drug cartels and pharmacies all make sure that we are not aware of how successful natural medicine is because they have too much money to lose!

Originally posted by MessedUpAnnie
drug cartels and pharmacies all make sure that we are not aware of how successful natural medicine is because they have too much money to lose!

you actually mean prescription drug conglomerates, don't you? the phrase "drug cartels" is generally used to describe groups that traffic in illegal drugs.
on topic, I guess it is possible they are supressing it, or more likely, they just use a strictly monitored diet and exercise to get people to lose weight. if they're successful in changing their habits enough, a sucess rate like that isn't impossible.

Morning Crescent that's what I was trying to figure out because messed up annie said that they are involve in drug cartels. Those are groups of narco trafficker runned by a drug lord to transport and sell drugs to people(ambitious drug dealers or to the government).
I think messedupannie meant prescription drug.
Drug Cartels is like the Mexican Mafia and like "La EME"
in mexico.

you actually mean prescription drug conglomerates, don't you? the phrase "drug cartels" is generally used to describe groups that traffic in illegal drugs.

No! I meant 'drug cartels'. I am quoting the doctors exact words! What you refer to as being 'illegal' drugs are only 'illegal' when being used on the street. The medical world uses coke, heroin, meth etc. ... they just use it legally ... but I imagine the sources they get it from would all be the same.

Email I recived

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NOTE nbsp; Here's a good example of the
point I recently made in a rant against the medical-industrial
complex.  The FDA protects that complex even as "Homeland
Security" is in fact a giant protection racket for the
corporate/government collusion in profiteering and control across the
board.  Heaven help the sheople wake up to the wolves in sheep's
clothing among us, pulling the wool over our eyes (controlled media)
while they fleece us and feast on "lamb-chops" - consuming our
children with pop-matrix culture that programs "the justice that
just is" as a "don't worry, be happy" generation of
mechanized/materialistic, politically correct/morally wrong sycophant
groupies of, by an for the mass media/mind control matrix.  Yep,
that be the fix we're in, which could change in a
heartbeat, if enough
good people networked the chain-reaction
VISION, without which,
victim dictum goes it's course and the people perish. All Ways Victory
When We LOVE Enough!
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Christos

From: Philosopher
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:54 AM
Subject: Jason Vale and The Food
and Drug Administration

PLEASE READ & PASS AROUND!!!
May 27, 2003
I am writing you in regards to an extremely important court hearing
between the Food and Drug Administration and a citizen by the name of
Jason Vale.  Knowing that your time is limited, I would like to give
you  a short explanation of a true story that is much like that of
David and Goliath.
 
At the age of eighteen, Jason was handed a death sentence by his doctors
when it was discovered that he had terminal cancer.  This was
confirmed by a second, third and fourth opinion of reputable doctors who
specialized in his specific type of cancer.  As many cancer victims
do, he and his parents sought alternative remedies when traditional
chemotherapy only seemed to make things worse.  Through extensive
research, they discovered that for years people who once had cancer found
healing properties in something as simple as the seed of a fruit. 
It turned out that apricot seeds, along with other citrus-variety type of
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cancer to becoming a world recognized sports figure became a media
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Unfortunately, this real-life story has a turbulent chapter that is now
being written, and this is why we are in dire need of your help.  In
November, 2001, Jason was strong-armed by the Food and Drug
Administration into signing a Consent Decree that would prevent him from
sharing his story or promoting apricot seeds.  The FDA has now
brought criminal charges against Jason for telling people where to get
apricot seeds.  His father had to post $840,000 bail and Jason is
pending trial that is set for July 14, 2003.  The Honorable Judge
John Gleeson will be presiding over the proceedings.  The same Judge
who presided over the hearing which resulted in the signing of the
Consent Decree.
Jason did cease from selling apricot seeds, but continued to share his
own story (to those who called him) of how he survived cancer through
eating apricot seeds.  Literally thousands of people have achieved
wellness through Jason's help. You can view some of these stories, along
with a more detailed history of Jason's court case at his websites:
seedoffaith.com and
apricotsfromgod.org Jason's prior legal
counsel assured him he could still share his belief in the curing
properties of the apricot seeds whether it be over the internet or via
the telephone.  However, the current criminal charges brought by the
FDA against Jason is a clear indicator that he is not allowed to share
his story.  This is clearly a violation of Jason's fundamental right
to Freedom of Speech.  It is also evident that the American public's
freedom to choose alternative remedies to health problems is also being
chiseled away through this action by the FDA.  It is imperative that
the FDA interprets their own statutes fairly and in accordance with
DSHEA, especially with regard to the apricot seed and Laetrile issues
that have been subject to an ongoing battle for over 30 years.  It
is imperative that the apricot seed extract is ruled in court to be a
nutriceutical and allowed to be used by informed Americans who are
terminally ill with cancer.
Jason is being assisted with legal advice by some of the top people in
the alternative health field. Richard Jaffe, the prominent Houston, 
Texas attorney who helped Dr. Burzynski win his court case against the
FDA in 1994, has given him important legal advice regarding the upcoming
trial.  Dr. Michael Culbert, President of the International Council
for Health Freedom, will be featuring Jason in an article in The Health
Freedom
News this month.
Please contact us at 1-800-395-7379 if you have any legal advice to
offer, or if you are in a position to interview Jason to get his story
out in the public eye so that more citizens are aware of these issues.
Any financial assistance you can offer to help with the mounting court
costs would also be greatly appreciated.  Please help spread the
word by forwarding this letter and the
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website to as many people as possible;  and take a moment of your time to contemplate the tremendous impact you could have on the American public's health, if you would allow yourself to consider that something as simple as an apricot seed could be the answer to eradicating a vicious disease such as cancer from the world.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Maddie Becka
202B Richards Street
College Station, TX  77840
Email: [email protected]
Jason Vale's Email: [email protected]

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[Edited on 8-6-2003 by All Seeing Eye]

Originally posted by MessedUpAnnie

you actually mean prescription drug conglomerates, don't you? the phrase "drug cartels" is generally used to describe groups that traffic in illegal drugs.

No! I meant 'drug cartels'. I am quoting the doctors exact words! What you refer to as being 'illegal' drugs are only 'illegal' when being used on the street. The medical world uses coke, heroin, meth etc. ... they just use it legally ... but I imagine the sources they get it from would all be the same.

okay, so you're talking stuff like medicinal use of marijuana? or something? now I'm completely confused.

Most drugs are made for medicinal purposes. Not just marijuana! coc aine is, methodane is, heroin is. Drugs have become a major business and the very people who grow the products used to make drugs are being protected by the FDA and the pharmaceutical companies etc so that everyone can make more money.

Hell at one point in the 80's, the US was financing and protecting drug production along the Pakistan- Afghanistan border. I'm sure you can find some interesting reading on that.

The point is, the medical community is taking us all for a ride so that all the levels involved in making medicine are lucrative. And as All Seeing Eye explained, they will put a stop to anyone that gets in their way by telling other people that there are natural methods that work better. This is why the story of this clinic is not on the cover of any medical journal as it should be.

btw ... thank you All Seeing Eye for explaining that so well. I'm surprised that Jason Vale even got to be seen on TV twice!

Most drugs are made for medicinal purposes. Not just marijuana! coc aine is, methodane is, heroin is. Drugs have become a major business and the very people who grow the products used to make drugs are being protected by the FDA and the pharmaceutical companies etc so that everyone can make more money.

You're right but it does not have to deal with Drug Cartels that is government business making their own drugs.
But then again it could possibly be the drug cartels working for the government like always

well i think that was exactly what he was saying ...

that they work together

where do you think the government gets the necessary ingredients?

[Edited on 8-6-2003 by MessedUpAnnie]

they also make their own though.

Maybe you should read "Cocaine Politics" good book it talks about Foreign Policy trading Drugs for Fire arms and money