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The US can blockade them and destroy their entire economy
interupt42
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
The US can blockade them and destroy their entire economy
Great point, Economic warfare is always on the card. However, there are plenty of other countries that are also dependent on China and might hesitate to jump on the blockade.
However in regards to our defense system and advance technology: Would we be able to manufacture the electrical components to run those advance systems in order to maintain them , repair them, and create them?
interupt42
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
All valid points especially in traditional warfare.
However unlikely, there is a possibility that our advance technology could have a highly vulnerable weakness.
Our ships controlling those shipping lanes , our anti defense systems, and nuclear facility all have electronic components in them.
If we are truly using electronic components on our advance technology that is manufactured by foreign entities including China , then we could be open to hardware weakness. Therefore isn't possible that our advance system might contain electronic components with open backdoors? If so, we might be surprised when we go press the button and nothing happens or something happens that we weren't expecting.
Fingersoup
Any war between us would escalate to nuclear anyways so it doesn't matter. I don't think we could contain them quick enough with an initial strike to prevent retaliation and vice versa.
Even if it wasn't already in the opening salvos of this purposed war, there's no way one side would let the other defeat them in a conventional war without one last all out retaliatory nuclear strike.
OccamsRazor04
We have complete control of the entire world's shipping lanes. No one can trade if we say they can't. End of story.
OccamsRazor04
They have ZERO force projection capabilities. There is literally nothing outside of nuclear war they can do. They will not launch, as doing so would permanently destroy their entire country. We may not be able to stop all their nukes, but we will 100% nuke them into a fallout wasteland, and there is nothing they can do about it.
doorhandle
OccamsRazor04
We have complete control of the entire world's shipping lanes. No one can trade if we say they can't. End of story.
That is incorrect, and I think China, Russia, the U.N may have something to say about that.
South China Sea
OccamsRazor04
They have ZERO force projection capabilities. There is literally nothing outside of nuclear war they can do. They will not launch, as doing so would permanently destroy their entire country. We may not be able to stop all their nukes, but we will 100% nuke them into a fallout wasteland, and there is nothing they can do about it.
They have limited military projection, not 'ZERO'. They also have allies: Russia, N Korea, Pakistan, even Cuba. Add those into the mix and no one wins.
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tinner07
I think China would have a problem with logistics. Suppose they do have a million man army. How many ships will it take to get them here? Certainly aren't going to fly them all here. And feeding them? thats a lot of food.
And just maybe we might pick up this massive flotilla on radar and sink it...
Soloprotocol
Everyone would lose..
OccamsRazor04
interupt42
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
All valid points especially in traditional warfare.
However unlikely, there is a possibility that our advance technology could have a highly vulnerable weakness.
Our ships controlling those shipping lanes , our anti defense systems, and nuclear facility all have electronic components in them.
If we are truly using electronic components on our advance technology that is manufactured by foreign entities including China , then we could be open to hardware weakness. Therefore isn't possible that our advance system might contain electronic components with open backdoors? If so, we might be surprised when we go press the button and nothing happens or something happens that we weren't expecting.
Show me a single piece of actual hard evidence saying this is so, and we can discuss it. Otherwise it's baseless speculation. I might as well speculate the US has demons working for it that will eat all of China in 2 hours.
Other serious roadblocks deter the detection of counterfeits within the military, according to the Commerce Department. It found the armed forces had no reliable method for tracking bogus chips and that numerous attempts to warn military authorities about counterfeits "have fallen on deaf ears."
Separate studies this year by the Commerce Department and the Government Accountability Office concluded that the armed forces -- which use chips in everything from communications and radar systems to warplanes and missiles -- is alarmingly vulnerable to fakes.
Commerce officials partly blamed the Iraq and Afghanistan wars for diminishing the supplies of chips the military normally uses for equipment repairs and forcing it to rely on questionable dealers for replacement parts. Moreover, both studies cited serious flaws in the Pentagon's procedures for spotting sham components.
Read more at: phys.org...
tinner07
I think China would have a problem with logistics. Suppose they do have a million man army. How many ships will it take to get them here? Certainly aren't going to fly them all here. And feeding them? thats a lot of food.
And just maybe we might pick up this massive flotilla on radar and sink it...
interupt42
US Achilles Tendons that I see:
1. How would the US be able to fight against china if we needed to replenish our electronic components and supplies?
2. Is their enough Americans with the knowledge and capability to successfully manufacture weapons in-house ?
China Achilles Tendons:
Maybe you can help with the list here.
edit on 11/20/2013 by Mirthful Me because: All Caps Title...
g146541
reply to post by superman2012
More bellies to feed, logistics has always been the military killer and always will.
Why do you think the Russians with their inferior equipment and training defeated the Superior Germans?
Scorched earth and the Russian winter, killed Germany.
All one really needs to do is survive the initial assault, then we can do like the French partisans did.
Then it is an easy war of attrition.