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John Kerry Signs UN Small Arms Treaty!

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posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 08:16 PM
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In the midst of the debate over funding Obamacare and the government John Kerry has gone behind America’s back to sign the UN Small Arms Treaty.



This is serious threat to American sovereignty. If you buy a foreign weapon, such as Sig Sauer from Germany, your purchase would fall under this international, unconstitutional law. It is a small arm and in the government’s eyes, you may be a terrorist for simply buying a handgun. The government continues to make efforts to give guns to Syrian terrorists and block the ability of Americans to purchase guns as they please. The NRA has questioned the legitimacy of this law:


This is a blatant and outrageous act on behalf of John Kerry which he had no right to do without the VOTE of the American Public's approval or denial.

*A little Rant*

I am sick to death of our corrupt and sleazy political system and their Democrazy! Democrazy is what we are praying for, turning our heads from, contributing to, being taxed to death over, in foreign 3rd world countries...

Link with Video:
www.randpaulreview.com...



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 08:19 PM
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Forgive me, but I thought the president had to sign treaties, and the Senate had to ratify them, before they became law.

Is that any chance of those two things happening?



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 08:27 PM
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reply to post by charles1952
 

It doesn't matter who or when the treaty is signed. Signing is not the same as ratifying. Ratification requires a 2/3 Senate majority. Not likely to happen.

The NRA has grossly misrepresented the provisions of the treaty.


edit on 9/25/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 08:43 PM
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Kerry went as representative.


Your guns are in danger. Obama has stopped defending the Second Amendment. He did not get his gun control agenda passed in the Senate. So, he’s unconstitutionally trying to use the United Nations to control your guns. Don’t let him.

Obama is getting dangerously close to signing the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. If he signs this treaty and the Senate ratifies it, the Second Amendment is toast. And your guns will be in the control of dictators around the world.

This sounds like a bad movie or a conspiracy theory, and I wish it were. But it’s real. 130 bipartisan members of Congress signed a letter that Rep. Mike Kelly wrote to President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry.


While everyone was busy watching the senate floor, which direction Obama care would take there were more pressing and less attention given to the Un representative John Kerry as he smiles away your second amendment rights, literally ignoring what the American people want, what congress and the Senate wants on behalf of their constituency.


A ‘National Control List’ Would Be Established

Article 5 of the Arms Trade Treaty creates a “National Control List.” Global leaders around the world who sign the treaty: “shall establish and maintain a national control system, including a national control list.”

Obama promised us he was not going to establish a national gun registry. “He's not seeking a registry,” White House Spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters on March 25, 2013.

In his twisted mind, Obama told the truth but not the whole truth. He didn’t want a national registry. He wanted a global registry. He wanted foreign governments to know whether you own a gun. That way, if you even think about jumping ship and leaving the United States to seek freedom elsewhere, there will effectively be an asterisk next to your name. Probably something like:

Name:Jimmy Brown
Criminal Activity:None
Gun Owner:Yes.
Notes:Watch out for this dude; he’s a duck hunter. He shoots lots of waterfowl in the fall. No criminal record. But, be alert. Could be a terrorist.


townhall.com...



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 09:04 PM
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NOW HE HAS COMMITTED TREASON BY VIOLATING HIS OATH TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION.

The NCSI / CID is on the verge to arrest Obama on charges of planning a False Flag Nuclear attach in D.C.
Google it and be aware that the two charges will not be an Impeachable offence it will be prison...



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 09:10 PM
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F4Driver
reply to post by antar
 
NOW HE HAS COMMITTED TREASON BY VIOLATING HIS OATH TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION.

The NCSI / CID is on the verge to arrest Obama on charges of planning a False Flag Nuclear attach in D.C.
Google it and be aware that the two charges will not be an Impeachable offence it will be prison...

What now?



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 09:14 PM
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Phage
reply to post by charles1952
 

It doesn't matter who or when the treaty is signed. Signing is not the same as ratifying. Ratification requires a 2/3 Senate majority. Not likely to happen.

The NRA has grossly misrepresented the provisions of the treaty.


edit on 9/25/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)


Not likely to happen. Today, tomorrow perhaps. A few years down the road could be an entire different story (get 60 Democrat Senators and BINGO = RATIFIED) - seems like the anti 2nd Amendment crowd won today.

As to being misrepresented? Well, it doesn't stop people from owning, just potentially makes it very expensive to own one...and take a look at these nice parts:

Article 15

International Cooperation

5. States Parties shall, where jointly agreed and consistent with their national laws, afford one another the widest measure of assistance in investigations, prosecutions and judicial proceedings in relation to violations of national measures established pursuant to this Treaty.

Article 16

International Assistance

1.In implementing this Treaty, each State Party may seek assistance including legal or legislative assistance, institutional capacity-building, and technical, material or financial assistance. Such assistance may include stockpile management, disarmament, demobilization and reintegration programs, model legislation, and effective practices for implementation. Each Party State in a position to do so shall provide such assistance, upon request.



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 09:15 PM
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F4Driver
reply to post by antar
 
NOW HE HAS COMMITTED TREASON BY VIOLATING HIS OATH TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION.

The NCSI / CID is on the verge to arrest Obama on charges of planning a False Flag Nuclear attach in D.C.
Google it and be aware that the two charges will not be an Impeachable offence it will be prison...




How has he committed treason?



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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MidnightTide

Phage
reply to post by charles1952
 

It doesn't matter who or when the treaty is signed. Signing is not the same as ratifying. Ratification requires a 2/3 Senate majority. Not likely to happen.

The NRA has grossly misrepresented the provisions of the treaty.


edit on 9/25/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)


Not likely to happen. Today, tomorrow perhaps. A few years down the road could be an entire different story (get 60 Democrat Senators and BINGO = RATIFIED) - seems like the anti 2nd Amendment crowd won today.

As to being misrepresented? Well, it doesn't stop people from owning, just potentially makes it very expensive to own one...and take a look at these nice parts:

Article 15

International Cooperation

5. States Parties shall, where jointly agreed and consistent with their national laws, afford one another the widest measure of assistance in investigations, prosecutions and judicial proceedings in relation to violations of national measures established pursuant to this Treaty.

Article 16

International Assistance

1.In implementing this Treaty, each State Party may seek assistance including legal or legislative assistance, institutional capacity-building, and technical, material or financial assistance. Such assistance may include stockpile management, disarmament, demobilization and reintegration programs, model legislation, and effective practices for implementation. Each Party State in a position to do so shall provide such assistance, upon request.


This treaty is about gun companies not the individual owners here in America. This treaty will not affect the American people.



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 09:34 PM
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Back when people were still on the fence about whether they should
flee to the mountains and let society collapse or stay in civilization
and buy a gun, the issue of good investments kept coming up.

I suggested that a Rifle was a good investment for two reasons,
they were easy to resell and they were produced in this country.

Since then small arms sales have skyrocketed, and people have
pretty much quit going-off-the-grid, deciding to stand their ground
on this country. The last figures I heard were that home invasion
was down 79% and violent crime down 49%.

But the only thing I take a sense of accomplishment from is that
people are buying American again. Most of these small arms are
produced in this country, by American employees. In an era where
most of our manufacturing has been outsourced, this has been a
good thing for the domestic economy.

The export of small arms and gun culture could completely reverse
the economic nightmare most real Americans are living under right
now.


...And along comes Senator John Kerry to sign the UN's Small Arms
Treaty. Effectively strangling the export of American firearms, and
American gun culture.


I here by call for The Father of all Creation to arrange the speedy
return to heaven of Mr Kerry's Banker, or Bankers. How ever many
he may have. And may he take mercy on their souls.

Mike



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 09:43 PM
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reply to post by buster2010
 


It will definitely affect the price of firearms and ammo, so I guess if you can't make guns illegal, you simply make them unaffordable.



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 09:54 PM
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Comment from Ted Cruz on FB:



I will oppose the UN Arms Trade Treaty that Secretary Kerry signed today. The Second Amendment must never be subjected to an ‘international norm.’



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 10:01 PM
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reply to post by sad_eyed_lady
 


You might find this a good read, get your cuppa and settle in MIT style on the study of the International Norm, dynamics and political change...

www.jstor.org...

Thanks for stopping in. Messed up huh?



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 10:21 PM
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reply to post by antar
 


Don't worry this is just a gesture from that whore of Kerry, treaties can never supersede constitutional laws, they could be enforced in countries that have not protections but US is "special".

It is in the constitution.



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 10:53 PM
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Anyone who signs a U.N. treaty should be jailed and have their heads shoved where the sun doesn't shine. The U.N. has no business being in the U.S.A.

Americans do not want them here, let alone funding the Satanic organization. Its current leader is a war criminal for god sake. They should have been kicked out of the U.S. after they were busted fabricating the whole global warming data just to squeeze money out of us.



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 11:05 PM
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reply to post by marg6043
 


I hope you are right but having sat in on the GOP conventions my mind was blown and the disappointments ran deep. I have seen them literally get their way even when everyone in the room was in opposition. Still the votes went as they wanted and not how they should have in a true democratic process. Its crooked as hell.



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 11:05 PM
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antar
reply to post by sad_eyed_lady
 


You might find this a good read, get your cuppa and settle in MIT style on the study of the International Norm, dynamics and political change...

www.jstor.org...

Thanks for stopping in. Messed up huh?


Messed up indeed.



posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 02:36 AM
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buster2010
This treaty is about gun companies not the individual owners here in America. This treaty will not affect the American people.


Bull frickin crap it won't! Many of the firearms purchased in the US are manufactured outside the US. Browning, Glock, Benelli, Stoeger, Steyr, H&K, Walther, Purdy, Zastava, Baretta, IMI, AI, and H&H are but a few major manufacturers that I can, (may) do, and absolutely should be able to walk into my local dealership and purchase firearms from.

My God, the fear of guns has become almost as ridiculous as my 5 year old's fear of boogeymen under her bed.



posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 06:52 AM
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reply to post by antar
 


More treasonous,
destructive to liberty,
horrific idiocy,
arrogant abuse of power,
tyrannical globalist
satanic sheeple trashing activity from the usual actors.

May they fall in the pit they have dug for the rest of us.



posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 06:57 AM
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Phage
reply to post by charles1952
 

It doesn't matter who or when the treaty is signed. Signing is not the same as ratifying. Ratification requires a 2/3 Senate majority. Not likely to happen.

The NRA has grossly misrepresented the provisions of the treaty.


edit on 9/25/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)


Perhaps it won't become law by simply signing, but it does matter.

It matters because it shows, yet again, this governments utter contempt for the constitutional rights and freedoms of American citizens.

It shows their mindset, and with the current crop of Arses busy running your country into the ground, their intentions and slippery natures, or more importantly the people being able to discern the same, matters greatly, even if the treaty isn't ratified by the Senate.




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