Obama takes a victory lap!!!!!!

something in another thread has a link to the Counsil on Foreign Relations.

it has a map of Syria showing strongholds.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by poet1b

Yeah, you are a real paragon of indiscriminate opinion as you root for Putin and Assad.

....and here's where your argument falls apart even more. Please source where I said I root for Putin or Assad nevermind both like your claim. All I have said is that Putin outplayed Obama in this instance. Lies make people doubt your credibility, but most people did that as soon as they read your first post.

Obama is the only leader who has done anything about the Syria situation, sent in ships, called for military action, began seeking congressional approval.

Not the only one, just the only one you care to look up to. Others have done things, just most of them realized that there was no proof when Obama did not as his interests don't lie in the truth, but in what he wants to be the truth.

All Putin did was concede to weapons inspectors, not exactly something to count as leadership.

Wrong again. Read up on it and then come back.

poet1b
reply to post by superman2012

 

You link does not say the U.S. is backing these Iraqi invaders who support Al Queda?

By not backing the Free Syrian Army, we are actually allowing our enemies to grow stronger.

Do you think that is a good thing?

Not only has the US admitted to funding the FSA, it was made legal for the PUBLIC to donate to them. So no, I don't believe funding terrorists is a good thing. You do?

reply to post by superman2012

All I have said is that Putin outplayed Obama

That is rooting for Putin, whether or not you admit it.

and you have yet to provide anything to back your opinion.

reply to post by superman2012


So you think the Free Syrian Army, fighting the oppressive Assad regime are the terrorists?

And Assad is not, and Putin is right to support Assad?

I guess anyone who fights oppression is a terrorist to you.

It is clear who's side you are on, and most of the posters on your side of the debate have nothing but the programmed nonsense they parrot.

I am more than happy to take the side of reason against people who refuse to engage their brains.

poet1b
reply to post by superman2012

 

All I have said is that Putin outplayed Obama

That is rooting for Putin, whether or not you admit it.

and you have yet to provide anything to back your opinion.

Rooting for Putin or saying he beat Obama in this case? Whatever floats your boat sport.
Provide anything? Try any news source that hasn't sang Obamas praise no matter what he does. Where are your sources? It goes both ways pal.

poet1b
reply to post by superman2012

 

So you think the Free Syrian Army, fighting the oppressive Assad regime are the terrorists?

And Assad is not, and Putin is right to support Assad?

I guess anyone who fights oppression is a terrorist to you.

It is clear who's side you are on, and most of the posters on your side of the debate have nothing but the programmed nonsense they parrot.

I am more than happy to take the side of reason against people who refuse to engage their brains.

Nope. I think Al-Queda, and al-nustra are terrorists, who happen to be part of the FSA, also the treasonous US government that supports them and any member of the public who donated to them.
I never said Assad was not a terrorist, nice try at a straw man argument though.
My side is one that is against terrorism, glad to see you support it and stand true though, it is admirable that you stick to your guns in support of terrorism.

If your last statement were true, you would be standing in front of a mirror for eternity yelling at yourself.

poet1b
reply to post by superman2012

 

All I have said is that Putin outplayed Obama

That is rooting for Putin, whether or not you admit it.

and you have yet to provide anything to back your opinion.

NO.

Even I can say Putin outplayed Obama cause its the truth.

The problem is not many people on ATS can distinguish murderer from murderer. Superman2012 has and so have I.

You?

Drank way too much of this.

Obamas kool-aid..

Logic and reason works better than emotion people.

Destruction of chemical weapons gooood.

See how easy that is.

Others tried, and others failed.

Obama got something going, the man deserves credit when credit is due. Obama took leadership, Putin followed, did not lead.

That is the fact of the matter.

poet1b

Others tried, and others failed.

Obama got something going, the man deserves credit when credit is due. Obama took leadership, Putin followed, did not lead.

That is the fact of the matter.

You are either a shill, a disinformation agent, a pr firm employee, or you are just not playing with a full deck.

That is the fact of the matter.

I found it funny when 2 days after you made this WILD claim, they were discussing the idea that Obama "won" on LBC talk radio here in London.
Oh the joys of an orchestrated "spin" mission.
You should be ashamed.

reply to post by OneManArmy


People shouldn't react on pure emotion.

There is no surprise that others see what I see, the logic is pretty solid.

poet1b
reply to post by OneManArmy

 

People shouldn't react on pure emotion.

There is no surprise that others see what I see, the logic is pretty solid.

If people had reacted on emotion, then Syria would be a pile of ash right now.

If the British government had voted to bomb, then it would have been done already.

Now regardless of your spurious claims, that is the logical conclusion.

reply to post by DocHolidaze


What scandals? Please stick to facts, not FOX and AM radio nonsense, just facts.

poet1b


Obama got something going.

Oh indeed he did...

Benghazi, NSA spying, Fast And Furious to name a few.

reply to post by OneManArmy


Phony claims for over emotional right wingers to sob in their beers about.

Not a fact one to back these claims.

Try again.

reply to post by poet1b


Poet1b , there's a special message for you from the White House.

Needed urgently Poet1b to replace Sen. Stevens in Libya a.s.a.p.

Transport will be provided , no passport necessary because of possible long , very long , maybe permanent engagement.

Bye
P.S Please write home about your experience.

reply to post by poet1b


Still waiting for your "facts" that Obama planned this "win".

Not as you see it, but facts. I already know your opinion, you already know mine. I'm looking for your facts to back up your delusion.

poet1b
reply to post by OneManArmy

 

Phony claims for over emotional right wingers to sob in their beers about.

Not a fact one to back these claims.

Try again.

Im not emotional and neither am I a right winger.

Try again.

It would seem you are not partial to facts either.

seabag
reply to post by poet1b

 

You think this is a victory for Obama? LOL

He drew a red line, Putin called his bluff with warships in the region and a slap in the face to Obama's Secretary of State, then Putin pulled the rug out from under him! That's how you define victory?

The American people won today...not Obama.

edit on 10-9-2013 by seabag because: (no reason given)

right.....funny how Putin did this just a day after meeting with Obama in Russia...no coincidence there right?...I guess the right can't possibly think that maybe, just maybe, they both worked this out in a way that reaches the goal and saves face for all parties....as usual, Obama is criticized no matter what (yawn)