Serious Threat to 2nd Amendment

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by solomons path

 

I love how these guys fall for this EVERY SINGLE TIME!

It cracks me up how they get their panties in a twist.

Do you know who the real single biggest threat to gun ownership is in this country? It's gun rights advocates themselves.

Is that what you think?

Fascinating.

In the 70's we had this gun debate once before.

Media was tightly controlled then,
we didn't have the internet,
and everyone voluntarily disarmed.

They took rifle class out of the high schools.
Then they took boxing out as well.

But here we are, it's 2013, and something the do-goody-goodies thought was a dead issue
is back.

And this time they are loosing the debate hard.
Like, no knee pads, skinned up on the concrete hard.



But we love do-goody-goody liberals,
and we don't want to shatter their fragile world view.
At least,
not too quickly.

So we stay quiet, and we watch.

And this is what is brought, shallow dis-info and fear-baiting.
Ok, that means the liberals are ready for another round.


Here it is.



The way the main stream media won the debate back in the 70's
was through hyperbole.
During an evening talk show, a person dressed like an authority figure would wax impatient and
sarcastically [color=gold] ask "Do you think people should have Bazooka's too!? Tanks!??!"
and the studio audience would laugh, and that would be the end of it.

But this isn't the Television era anymore,
and I get to have a say in the discussion this round.

It was true then, and it's still true now.

"Yes, the gorram second Amendment means we get to have freaking Tanks AND bazookas if we want them."

My neighborhood should be able to by a Chinook, or a freaking AA battery if they want.

What? You think I'm crazy.
What about all these terrorist threats.
I sure the hell don't want FEMA to go New Orleans on me
in the event of a disaster. But my neighborhood fire department I trust.

And why the hell should the mounted heavy machine guns,
anti aircraft missiles, and old fighter Jets get sold to countries filled with our enemies anyway.

That #ing # should me MINE!



Mike

Hot, off the presses!




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reply to post by mikegrouchy


All of your posts are correct, mike!

The thing people seem to forget is that the 2nd amendment guarantees the right to bear arms….yet it doesn’t specify “arms”. The only reason we can’t own machine guns today is because some liberal usurpers in 1934 decided we couldn’t be trusted.

Gun regulation in any form is NOT FREEDOM! Freedom comes with risks! Either you want FREEDOM or you want your hand held by government! Which is it?

Exactly.


All this arguing over shotguns and pistols is pocket change.


And for the youth It's even worse than that.
Our state run militias have already been taken away from us.

No longer do [color=gold] young people get to go through the right of being recognized, by the state, as a contributing member of society and receiving their first firearm. And just look at what happened to the homicide rate since.

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B: The murder rate from 1870 to 1905 was slightly under or slightly over 1 per 100,000. During this time anyone, black, white, immigrant, a 14 year old, etc. could buy a firearm anywhere and anytime. If "guns cause murder" as the anti-freedom groups say, why was the murder rate so low when anyone and everyone could buy firearms? It is self-evident that whatever factors increase the murder rate, the open and free sale of firearms is NOT one of them.

www.amfire.com...

We should rightfully have tanks, jet aircraft, bazookas, even our own space craft by now.
9 the eleventh would have been swatted down like a mosquito.
But noooo,
big momma nanny state thinks she knows best.



MIke

reply to post by Adonsa


Myth and facts of treaties. A treaty do not overstep over the US constitution.

"The treaty power as expressed in the Constitution, is in terms unlimited except by those restraints which are found in that instrument against the action of the government or of its departments and those arising from the nature of the government itself and of that of the States. It would not be contended that it extends so far as to authorize what the Constitution forbids, or a change in the character of the government, or a change in the character of the States, or a cession of any portion of the territory of the latter without its consent."
In lame words,

The U.S. Supreme Court has made it very clear that

1) Treaties do not override the U.S. Constitution.
2) Treaties cannot amend the Constitution. And last,

3) A treaty can be nullified by a statute passed by the U.S. Congress (or by a sovereign State or States if Congress refuses to do so), when the State deems a treaty the performance of a treaty is self-destructive. The law of self-preservation overrules the law of obligation in others. When you've read this thoroughly, hopefully, you will never again sit quietly by when someone -- anyone -- claims that treaties supercede the Constitution. Help to dispell this myth.

"This [Supreme] Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty." - Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at pg 17.

www.sweetliberty.org...

Gawd this is funny. Even the tiniest whiff of gun takers..and Americans get all ansy...

You do know that the world looks at Americans as one of the most pathetic countries around...dependent on thier guns. You all make it sound if they are taken away you would all curl up in a ball and wet yourselves. You make yourselves sound pathetic.

Good job.

reply to post by Onslaught2996


Is a constitutional right, and we thank our forefathers for that one, a nation that strip their citizens from the rights to protect themselves from government is nation run by tyrants.

Originally posted by Onslaught2996
Gawd this is funny. Even the tiniest whiff of gun takers..and Americans get all ansy...

You do know that the world looks at Americans as one of the most pathetic countries around...dependent on thier guns. You all make it sound if they are taken away you would all curl up in a ball and wet yourselves. You make yourselves sound pathetic.

. [color=gold] Good job.

Thank you.



And we have a healthy sense of humor about it too.












Responsible gun ownership is a civic duty.
Learning how to safely handle, store, and use a firearm
is something that makes everyone safer.

This man knows.
And he's trying to get through to his peers.





This is the little "12 year old girl" he is talking about.





Responsible.
Civic duty.
Gun safety courses.

If that makes us pathetic,
well... ok then.


Mike