Pakistan Taliban set up camps in Syria, join anti-Assad war

reply to post by neo96
Time to get the hell out of Dodge and let all of these morons kill each other off! If they can't figure out how to spend all the extra money from not funding any of this crap any more they can do the unthinkable: give us a damn tax break!

Originally posted by littled16
reply to post by neo96

 

Time to get the hell out of Dodge and let all of these morons kill each other off! If they can't figure out how to spend all the extra money from not funding any of this crap any more they can do the unthinkable: give us a damn tax break!

I have zero problems with that.

None what so ever.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Pakistani Taliban = The specific forces our drones are rocketing almost daily and have been for years.

Pakistani Taliban = Controllers of Waziristan, which is the tribal area, the Afghani fighters ( ...fighting our guys daily ..) are still coming from ..daily.

So, do our advisers and trainers give them a handshake, a bullet or both, on recognition? It's almost a fair question ...which really makes it scary.

Now we literally *ARE* funding on one front, the same men and group we're fighting on another.

Oh.... I need more than Excedrin for this migraine. See what happens when politicians don't have adult supervision? How is the military supposed to deal with handing a rifle to the guy they were trying to shoot just a month before ...simply because it's a different combat theater?

This should be real interesting to watch.

And therefore there is no way that anyone can say our government is not guilty of false flags and use them as a very important intelligence tactic.

Some people scoff at the mention of false flags but if you understand this reality and look back over history, the chips start falling into place.

Day in, day out people try their hand at reverse psychology to acquire any number of things. It is human nature until you learn to break that habit by upholding truth. It's as common as eating a meal. Our political decisions are saturated with reverse psychology false flags and this is why you can seldom ever believe what you are told. You must look at the whole picture for the pieces to fall into place.

Without a good solid open minded look at history, one may never see it.

To get over the bad US reputation, this historical issue has got to be addressed.

So the Taliban are our friends now


Really and the UK is considering send arms to these people?


Why not just strap aload of bombs on monkeys and send they over there and add to the sheer crazyness of it all

its a grand game of Risk.
the west wants to install "puppets" everywhere.
our dice rolls have really sucked against Syria.
time to step it up a notch.

You know, the overwhelming problem I see this has caused, the more I've thought about it in terms of our supporting these cretins now that they've not only aligned with Al Qaeda in Iraq but the main body of the Taliban, directly, is a much more serious one than this current battlefield.

Whatever people want to say about America today, I'm flat stating as fact by memory and living the years personally that it was not always like this. America DID, at least on balance and more often than not, stand for a predictable set of values around the world as well as react in a predictable way to events. Looking back to the last war of real size and scale, there were wide spread incidents of black marketing between shady U.S. Soldiers and the Viet-Cong, but the U.S. Command did not WORK with them, for God's sake.

Now the problem is...as we've devolved into basically standing for nothing while standing for anything that is politically useful or expedient, the OTHER major world powers have been turning more back into tradition and values, not away. They sure haven't become the same valueless rogues as I'm so sad to have to say at times, the U.S. Government has.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


War isn't about honor or peacekeeping or spreading democracy or protecting the homeland. It's now a growth industry with contractors, subcontractors, hired foreign mercenaries, privately maintained and operated supply lines, off shore money manipulation and mutual funds based on weapons manufacturing; And diversification by playing both sides of the confilct. Politics of war is just a secondary byproduct of the economics of war.

War is Capitalism

www.marketwatch.com...
www.daviddfriedman.com...://ingienous.com/?page_id=13057
www.economist.com...


Dorothy, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore

Savy investors are making a killing....

Originally posted by autopat51
its a grand game of Risk.
the west wants to install "puppets" everywhere.
our dice rolls have really sucked against Syria.
time to step it up a notch.

A better analogy would have been a "grand game of monopoly"

"dice rolls"??? it's only a gamble if you play by the rules; in a game where there are no rules.

So...

US/UK/EU assisting Syrian Rebels, Iraqi Rebels and Pakistan Taliban

fight

Syrian Army, Hezbollah and Iranian militia.

...while the US and UK and her allies fight, Iraqi rebels in Iraq, Pakistan Taliban in Afghanistan & Iranian militia in Iraq....


all the while Israel sites back and throws a bomb here, a missile there to make sure no one comes to their senses and wants peace.

What a total and unbelievable mess that all started with the Bush Admins desire to fabricate a war through domestic crisis for natural resources.

reply to post by olaru12

Indeed... War has become about, not just a secondary issue to big business. It's 10's of billions in net profits to the top defense contractors every year....each. That's probably the worst thing here. Killing is as much for profit by many of the guys in the field as in Political office. The only ones not in on the big scam are the ones being shot at. They have their own agendas...but we're in a position to say 'enough' and leave. They aren't in most examples.

Sadly though...War is just one of the ways it's all changed so much and so very quickly too. Even Clinton would have laughed at the notion of fighting the Aidid Militia in Somalia while working directly with the group or an affiliate elsewhere. It's the same level of insanity and simply means we stand for nothing. It's the worst sign of weakness ..and the world is an ocean with everything from feeder fish the the Great Whites. We're shrinking by things like this, IMO.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


The world looks different when filtered thru the lenses of economics, does it not?

Nationalism, traditional politics of left/right, patriotism and ideology are simply tools, used by those versed in the methods of control and deception.

Originally posted by neo96

So now the Pakistan Taliban have set up shop in Syria to fight Assad which rest assured another alphabet agency of it's ISI.

You are seriously the most ignorant person I have come across in a long time. Don't spew nonsense, please.

reply to post by Misbah


What country are you from? And yes, Taliban ARE killing civilians.

reply to post by GLaDOS


Hmmm

The ISI and Terrorism: Behind the Accusations

en.wikipedia.org...

Pakistan's ISI Intelligence Agency Listed As Terror Organization By U.S. Authorities: Wikileaks

Yep someone sure does look 'ignorant'.

reply to post by neo96


It's mind blowing to see the number of people who seem to know everything there is to know about how "the US trained, funded and supported Bin Laden" in the 80's but seem absolutely clueless to the duplicity of the Pakistani ISI for playing both sides against the middle, regardless of their OWN Government's position, as often as not.

You'd think the past and history of the ISI would be better known by folks seemingly spending effort to learn the topics to such depth?

reply to post by neo96

Pakistan's military intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), has long faced accusations of meddling in the affairs of its neighbors.

Affairs of its neighbors. meaning Afghanistan. NOT the Pakistani Taliban.

What you're trying to say is, Pakistani ISI is supporting a group which bombs Pakistani civilians?

Originally posted by neo96

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by neo96

 

Lets Ask the NeoCons for advice.

Sounds good to me, but alas don't have the number for the Russia mafia,the Chinese Triads, or the Pakistani Taliban Drug Cartels, or their middle man Iran.

Do you?

Give him a ring www.parliament.uk...

As Neo-Con as they come with a bit of pompous British snobbery thrown in.

reply to post by GLaDOS


Do some research before stating insulting people.

From 1995 to 2001, the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence[16] and military[17] are widely alleged by the international community to have provided support to the Taliban. Their connections are possibly through Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, a terrorist group founded by Sami ul Haq.[18] Pakistan has been accused by many international officials of continuing to support the Taliban today, but Pakistan claims to have dropped all support for the group since 9/11

The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained mujahideen in northern Pakistan, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan. W

Pakistan was keen to gear up for a breakthrough in Central Asia. ... Islamabad could not possibly expect the new Islamic government leaders... to subordinate their own nationalist objectives in order to help Pakistan realize its regional ambitions. ... Had it not been for the ISI's logistic support and supply of a large number of rockets, Hekmatyar's forces would not have been able to target and destroy half of Kabul.[4

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by neo96

widely alleged by the international community

Alleged. I think that means:

Definition: asserted, often doubtful
Synonyms: averred, declared, described, dubious, ostensible, pretended, professed, purported, questionable, so-called, stated, supposed, suspect, suspicious
Antonyms: certain, definite, sure

reply to post by neo96


Again, these are not the TTP (Pakistani Taliban). I didn't say anything about Afghan Taliban. Harkat-ul-Mujahideen operates in a completely different region (Kashmir).

The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained mujahideen in northern Pakistan, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan. W

Pakistani-TRAINED mujahideen were Afghans. ISI, along with CIA and the Saudis were all training them.

And again, you talk about Hekmatyar. He was not part of TTP. You seem to think all these groups are the same with one objective/ideology. They're not.