Cop acting like a cowboy accuses Belgium couple of being terrorists for breastfeeding a baby

This has already been settled in a court of law.
You are allowed to breast feed in public.
Not sure about private clubs, but a lot of public venues have
been sued for a lot of money for EXACTLY what this club did

This IS about breastfeeding in public, don't be fooled.

The club wanted the police to throw them out,
But the cop surely answered their request with the fact that "breastfeeding in public is not illegal... so my hands are tied!
....wait, maybe if we can use another excuse, like that they seem like terrorists! I can use that excuse anytime I want and it is accepted as legally justified action!"

Those poor people must have been so confused and upset- in Europe, breast feeding isn't considered sexual and no one would think twice about doing it in public.

Sometimes cultural clashes can cause the most nightmarish situations. I have had enough of my own here, and at times it can seem like you are in Wonderland being attacked without any logical reason at all, by lunatics.... until someone explains to you how you transgressed their cultural traditions and taboos somehow.

Living in another country is not for the faint of heart or those very attached to their traditions and values...

reply to post by Domo1

Serious question... Is it really necessary to whip out a boob the second a baby gets hungry? Are thy not able to wait for 1/2 hour? I really have no idea

Has it ever occured to you that it is quite normal for a female of a species to produce milk for her offspring ? Perhaps feeding our babies milk from a domesticated buffalo is kind of retarded.

I wonder what the cops reaction would have been if the lady braught a cow into the club and had the baby suck fresh milk from the udders ?

It becomes even more insane when we consider that almost every male has spent endless hours of their lives trying to fondle or suck on a womans' breast.

I really feel there is little hope for humanity.

Originally posted by poet1b
shine.yahoo.com...

Remans reportedly began to inconspicuously breastfeed her daughter Luka at the table when a female supervisor approached and asked her to leave. “She said, ‘Please leave immediately, you are disturbing the members,'" Neijens told the New York Post.

He intervened on his wife’s behalf, telling the supervisor that the feeding would not take long, but Remans was told to finish in the restroom.

“You don’t ask a person to have lunch in the restroom — why would you ask a baby to have lunch there?” Neijens said.

Shortly after the confrontation, the Greenburgh Police Department arrived. The couple told the Post that Detective Scott Harding yelled, “Close the doors!” and other diners were asked to leave the terrace.

“He was walking as if he was acting in a Western movie,” Neijens said. “He had one hand on his gun, one hand on his Taser.”

The officer reportedly told the couple that they were trespassing and that other patrons at the club believed them to be terrorists because of the black backpack the couple had in their possession. “In Sri Lanka, babies are used by terrorists,” the cop allegedly said.

When Neijens revealed his State Department-issued ID, the cop softened. “You have to understand, this club has had terrorism threats in the past,” he told the diplomat.

Softened? I bet that cop almost wet himself. I laughed my behind off when I read that.

Welcome to the police state of modern terrorism.

Anything you do can be called terrorism these days, even breast feeding a baby.

This is how low we have sunk.

edit on 1-7-2013 by poet1b because: Oops, forgot to add link, and wrong nationality of couple

All of that is complete bull # taken completely out of context. The cop wasn't acting like a cowboy, he was being cautious because there have been terrorist threats to that location in the past with people who use babies as distractions, and they did have a suspicious black backpack. If I was that cop on duty, I would have reason to be cautious as well.

reply to post by Kody27


If I am remembering correctly what the article said, it was the Belgian guy who described the cop as acting like a cowboy?

I have heard that before from Europeans on vacation in the US- like when some friends were pulled over.
We are used to seeing them walking with a hand on their gun, and with a body language of authority, but the europeans really find this strange. Their police make effort to seem non-threatening.

Originally posted by Bluesma
reply to post by Kody27

 

If I am remembering correctly what the article said, it was the Belgian guy who described the cop as acting like a cowboy?

I have heard that before from Europeans on vacation in the US- like when some friends were pulled over.
We are used to seeing them walking with a hand on their gun, and with a body language of authority, but the europeans really find this strange. Their police make effort to seem non-threatening.

Yeah that's because if our police made themselves seem non-threatening they'd get their throats slit.

Originally posted by JohnBlack
Take away the badge and gun and you will see nothing but an apologetic child.

As a 16 year-old kid, I had a manager that would come to my work station and wave around his "auxiliary police ID card". Sometimes he played with my pockets and tried to pull my pants above my boot-tops so he could see if I was carrying marijuana. This mentally defective moron was really just a child in a man's body.

Fast forward 40 years, this wanna-be cop is now "commissioner of police" in a town of 2500 people. His behavior is still just as bad. The dumba** just never grew up. It's beyond tragic.

I know there are good cops out there. Unfortunately, It's been years and years since I've met one.

reply to post by Kody27


so people should not wear black backpacks?

Unless they are willing to get shot by any small town trigger happy cop.

A cop shouldn't put his hand on his weapon unless there is a reasonable possibility that it will need to be drawn.

A couple sitting in a restaurant where the woman is breast feeding a baby is not threatening situation.

Extreme uses of the law is getting way out of hand. This country needs to put these wanna be cowboys back in their place.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Kody27

 

so people should not wear black backpacks?

Unless they are willing to get shot by any small town trigger happy cop.

A cop shouldn't put his hand on his weapon unless there is a reasonable possibility that it will need to be drawn.

A couple sitting in a restaurant where the woman is breast feeding a baby is not threatening situation.

Extreme uses of the law is getting way out of hand. This country needs to put these wanna be cowboys back in their place.

Let's define some terms here so maybe you'll have a chance at gaining an accurate frame of reference..

Context -
"1: the parts of a discourse that surround a word or passage and can throw light on its meaning
2 : the interrelated conditions in which something exists or occurs : environment, setting"

Yes, if you take each incident individually from this situation and separate them one by one, it doesn't make sense that the cop did what he did, or that he was even called in the first place.

But, in reality, there is context to the situation. It clearly says that that specific club had terrorist threats before, and that the cop has known terrorist to use babies as a distraction and/or defense. These two things combined clearly indicate that the cop felt as if he were entering a different situation altogether.

I don't blame the cop, however, I do blame whoever called the cops in the first place. I understand it's not preferred in some places to breastfeed your baby, but is it completely necessary to call the damn police? I mean there are murders and rapes going on right now, and you're gonna call the emergency protection services on a titty?

Originally posted by Kody27

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Kody27

 

so people should not wear black backpacks?

Unless they are willing to get shot by any small town trigger happy cop.

A cop shouldn't put his hand on his weapon unless there is a reasonable possibility that it will need to be drawn.

A couple sitting in a restaurant where the woman is breast feeding a baby is not threatening situation.

Extreme uses of the law is getting way out of hand. This country needs to put these wanna be cowboys back in their place.

Let's define some terms here so maybe you'll have a chance at gaining an accurate frame of reference..

Context -
"1: the parts of a discourse that surround a word or passage and can throw light on its meaning
2 : the interrelated conditions in which something exists or occurs : environment, setting"

Yes, if you take each incident individually from this situation and separate them one by one, it doesn't make sense that the cop did what he did, or that he was even called in the first place.

But, in reality, there is context to the situation. It clearly says that that specific club had terrorist threats before, and that the cop has known terrorist to use babies as a distraction and/or defense. These two things combined clearly indicate that the cop felt as if he were entering a different situation altogether.

I don't blame the cop, however, I do blame whoever called the cops in the first place. I understand it's not preferred in some places to breastfeed your baby, but is it completely necessary to call the damn police? I mean there are murders and rapes going on right now, and you're gonna call the emergency protection services on a titty?

In this particular situation, there is no reason to have done what was done to this young family simply because of a possible wishy-washy 'terrorist' threat to the club at some point in history...there were actual bombs planted (by 'someone') on three underground tube stations on 7/7...i can GUARANTEE you if there was a young family breastfeeding their baby in ANY of them, previous terror explosions or not, NO policeman or policewoman would ever dream of accusing them of terrorism purely because they happened to be there feeding their baby and carrying a nappy sack!

Not a chance of it.

So yes, the cop was being an arse, and abusing his powers, especially the abuse of questionable terror legislation in an attempt to browbeat the couple into compliance even when the cop, the management of the club and the couple themselves all knew this was only being done to them because they had the 'nerve' to naturally feed their baby and stay within their legal and lawful rights when they refused to cease feeding the child.

Cop got sore that 'uppety' foreigners wouldn't obey an unreasonable order to comply, resulted in the cop's abuse of terror legislation to get what he wanted, no doubt about it.

Originally posted by smurfy

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Dominar

 

Personally, I think what the Belgian guy said was a bit racist. So, if you look European you cannot be a terrorist? Only brown people, I take it?

Much agreement there, and restaurants are basically canteens. Aside from that case in point, in a cafe recently I was sitting with my wife opposite, the next row up and behind my wife, a woman was glaring at me, and I thought, WTF is that all about? I had no clue that she was feeding a baby, as all I could see was a face, but the glaring went on and eventually I said to my wife what was going on with this glaring, I don't know her, my wife though had long copped on before we had even sat down, and conveyed the message. So, what are you supposed to do in a restaurant? put a bag over your head in case your are looking the wrong way?

Women who breastfeed in public then get angry when someone looks at them are stupid--if you don't want someone to see your boob, don't whip it out.

Most women can breastfeed without anyone around them noticing. They swaddle/put a blanked over the baby so that it looks like to any casual observer that the child is simply taking a nap. The only problems then come from the "whip it out" ladies.

I don't have a problem with breastfeeding in public: kid's gotta eat too and I am fond of breasts. Win-win!

ETA: I'd rather my kids see a full on breastfeeding in public rather than a woman in a very skimpy top because they need to learn the lesson that breasts are not just the sexualized organs the media tells us they are and that they provide an important role in feeding children and maternal/child bonding.

Now that the US Sheeple and the retarded law enforcement goons are all conditioned to crap themselves at the sight of a black backpack... the bad guys will use a red one, or maybe blue.... or perhaps green, to thwart all the expensive security and surveillance!

Seriously, mental retardation all around. That country gets even more backward as the years go by.

Never understood morality in the US.

Sexualising women via cheerleading culture = fine
Sexualising of Children in beauty pagents = fine
Honey Boo Boo/explotation of a minor = fine
Largest exporter of pornography in the world.

Woman breastfeeding in public? Hell no.

So now breastfeeding, a natural process required for the survival of the species, is disturbing?


Please take me off this planet or just wipe out the human race -__-

Note to self. Sell all your black back packs to terrorists on Craigslist.

Thank God i live in the UK, it is against the law to ask a breastfeeding mother to stop feeding.
I'm very surprised this is not true of the US as well.

Where better for a baby to eat than a restaurant, it's beyond puritanical that people believe breastfeeding mothers should stay at home until their babies stop feeding.

Originally posted by MysterX

Originally posted by Kody27

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Kody27

 

so people should not wear black backpacks?

Unless they are willing to get shot by any small town trigger happy cop.

A cop shouldn't put his hand on his weapon unless there is a reasonable possibility that it will need to be drawn.

A couple sitting in a restaurant where the woman is breast feeding a baby is not threatening situation.

Extreme uses of the law is getting way out of hand. This country needs to put these wanna be cowboys back in their place.

Let's define some terms here so maybe you'll have a chance at gaining an accurate frame of reference..

Context -
"1: the parts of a discourse that surround a word or passage and can throw light on its meaning
2 : the interrelated conditions in which something exists or occurs : environment, setting"

Yes, if you take each incident individually from this situation and separate them one by one, it doesn't make sense that the cop did what he did, or that he was even called in the first place.

But, in reality, there is context to the situation. It clearly says that that specific club had terrorist threats before, and that the cop has known terrorist to use babies as a distraction and/or defense. These two things combined clearly indicate that the cop felt as if he were entering a different situation altogether.

I don't blame the cop, however, I do blame whoever called the cops in the first place. I understand it's not preferred in some places to breastfeed your baby, but is it completely necessary to call the damn police? I mean there are murders and rapes going on right now, and you're gonna call the emergency protection services on a titty?

In this particular situation, there is no reason to have done what was done to this young family simply because of a possible wishy-washy 'terrorist' threat to the club at some point in history...there were actual bombs planted (by 'someone') on three underground tube stations on 7/7...i can GUARANTEE you if there was a young family breastfeeding their baby in ANY of them, previous terror explosions or not, NO policeman or policewoman would ever dream of accusing them of terrorism purely because they happened to be there feeding their baby and carrying a nappy sack!

Not a chance of it.

So yes, the cop was being an arse, and abusing his powers, especially the abuse of questionable terror legislation in an attempt to browbeat the couple into compliance even when the cop, the management of the club and the couple themselves all knew this was only being done to them because they had the 'nerve' to naturally feed their baby and stay within their legal and lawful rights when they refused to cease feeding the child.

Cop got sore that 'uppety' foreigners wouldn't obey an unreasonable order to comply, resulted in the cop's abuse of terror legislation to get what he wanted, no doubt about it.

Uh yeah there are serious doubts about it. You've still left important context out of the situation. That is not the whole picture.

1. Previous terrorist threats had been made to that specific club
2. Terrorists have used babies previously as distractions/defense.
3. The couple in question did have a suspicious black backpack, and terrorists at the Boston marathon recently had black backpacks.
4. The cop enetered the situation knowing all of this, and on top of that, felt suspicious that the cops had to be called in the first place. Knowing full well that terrorists have threatened that club before.

I don't like cops any more than most people on here, as a matter of fact I think they're pigs. But you're just simply exaggerating this situation. It's not what you're making it out to be. If I was that cop, I would have been scared because of the whole context of the suspicious situation.

reply to post by Domo1

Is it really necessary to whip out a boob the second a baby gets hungry?

Yes,

who cares if the baby is hungry, just whip them out and leave them out I say.

Whats with Boobs and ATS today. Whats with me and my stupid jokes, maybe I wasn't breast fed enough as a child, and now lacking some crucial vitamins to not make a joke every time I hear tits or boobs.
I m not complaining only asking.

Another thread about Muslims letting them out and entering a mosque.

Originally posted by Biigs

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
These people would rather see a baby go hungry than possibly become victims of seeing a partial breast?

Apparently it was nothing to do with the boob.

Backpack *could contain* some sort of terrorist equipment, since a bomber took a shoe bomb on a plane we have to assume anyone waring shoes is a potential terrorist.

Terrorists also have names, so anyone with a name is a also a terror suspect....

and now imagine the name Terry, and he had broken wrist.


I smell a conspiracy brewing


Anyone called Terry that has a wrist is being watched and under surveillance, man I feel safer now,

who knows what Terry and his wrist can do? just with one jerk of that wrist and Terry could create havoc.


rub two sticks together and you make fire.


I think I lost my mind as I am laughing my A off at my own stupid humour that probably wont make sense to most if any.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by stumason

 

God Fearing America? Cops are jerks everywhere in the US .. his reaction probably had more to do with having to go on that call for sheer annoyance than "fearing god"

Yea I concur with this idea. Most cops in the US I find are products of their environments. They think the power and uniform make them who they are, and as such, power corrupts. Im willing to bet this goes for majority if politicians as well.


Here's a cold hard fact: Stories like this happen DAILY across the US and change is needed.