Islamization of the West = God's payback for the creation of Modern Israel.

reply to post by dollukka

Old testaments prophesies for Israel include scattering of Israel and also gathering of Israel and rebuilding process.

There is NO prophecy that states that Israel would be rebuilt as a decadent nation where prostitution is rampant and gays parade in Jerusalem... and Jesus is insulted on live TV. Its amazing how so many Christians support this literally anti-Christian nation.

Also God has promised Israel for them forever, its their land forever according the Old Testament. [/quiote]
According to the Old Testament, the Israelites were merely tenants in the land.... and their stay on the land was conditional... depending on their behavior.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n

Off topic personal insults and deflection attempt ... epic fail on your part.

My point stands. The uneducated peasants of the Old Testament thought everything that happened was a reward or punishment from God. Good people went through hell on earth because when they suffered, which is natural in life, people around them would point at them and say that God was mad at them for being 'sinners'.

The statement about 'islamization of the west = God's payback' is of the same flavor as how the peasants in the Old Testament thought. Yes Islam is a negative for humanity and yes, unfortunately it is spreading in the world. But it isn't because God is using it as a punishment, it's because of the stupidity of humanity in buying into it and/or being caught up in a cult.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


"Palestine" was a desert wasteland before the creation of Israel. The Arabs didn't give two craps about it until the Jews wanted the land back.

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The same prophecy also says that Israel will be regathered NOT because of any merit on their part whatsoever, but because God's integrity is at stake. He regathered Israel to keep His word, certainly not a reward to the Jewish people.

reply to post by NOTurTypical

"Palestine" was a desert wasteland before the creation of Israel. The Arabs didn't give two craps about it until the Jews wanted the land back.

I see. So if a foreign nation takes over the Nevada desert and turns it into a settlement... any Americans who might object would be giving 2 craps only AFTER somebody else "made the desert bloom", right?

Since you seem to hold that foreigners can just take over somebody else's land, then I guess you are ok with with mass Muslim migration to North America and Europe.

reply to post by NOTurTypical

The same prophecy also says that Israel will be regathered NOT because of any merit on their part whatsoever, but because God's integrity is at stake. He regathered Israel to keep His word, certainly not a reward to the Jewish people.

Depends on how you interpret prophecies.
There is one that says God will regather them, only to punish them and show his wrath. That would still count as God keeping His word.
Also, only a portion of them would be spared, which is what Islam also holds.

Originally posted by davesmart
Op

This bastard started it

Chaim Weizmann

en.wikipedia.org...

Edit:

your posts and threads have been great, but

This thread in my head will be turned into a zionistic piece of garbage.

edit on 2012/06/12 by davesmart because: (no reason given)

Actually it was the Balfour declaration that started it all. Then it was due to the fact that the west kicked the Ottomans empires ass in WW1.
en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

"Palestine" was a desert wasteland before the creation of Israel. The Arabs didn't give two craps about it until the Jews wanted the land back.

I see. So if a foreign nation takes over the Nevada desert and turns it into a settlement... any Americans who might object would be giving 2 craps only AFTER somebody else "made the desert bloom", right?

Since you seem to hold that foreigners can just take over somebody else's land, then I guess you are ok with with mass Muslim migration to North America and Europe.

edit on 30-6-2013 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)

Is the West Bank "occupied territory"?

And your Nevada desert statement is a complete non sequitur. Would you like to refrase the scenario with something that resembles what happened in Israel before 1947? Specifically England's role.

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

The same prophecy also says that Israel will be regathered NOT because of any merit on their part whatsoever, but because God's integrity is at stake. He regathered Israel to keep His word, certainly not a reward to the Jewish people.

Depends on how you interpret prophecies.
There is one that says God will regather them, only to punish them and show his wrath. That would still count as God keeping His word.
Also, only a portion of them would be spared, which is what Islam also holds.

The Bible says 1/3 will be spared, that prophecy is independent of the prophecies saying God will regather them from the nations that He scattered them to.

I think it more demonstrable that it is punishment for the ethnic Nationalism of the Third Reich which sought to remove the Jews and Freemasons from their areas of influence, the antidote to this was the promotion of ideology that undermined any sense of ethnic identity within Western Nations and the pride that they had in their achievements being reduced to sense of shame, thus deserving of loss of status and pre-eminence...an amazing psyche-op.

The mass immigration was the means toward this end, that Nationality was no longer bound up with ethnicity, and through this means of divided and conquer the Jews and Freemasons have become masters over the muddled masses.


Question this and you're an 'evil Nazi'