N27RA crash

Whether blood work was done or not, there is a 12 lead EKG test, blood saturation level, and many other tests that would catch a supposed "90% blockage" that Mr Palay allegedly had at the time of his death. He can fool blood pressure with nitro pills, but not every single test. The AME can also order a stress test if he feels it necessary.

As one person commenting on one of the articles said, there is no way an AME should have been able to miss this, and award him a certificate to keep flying without first going to a cath lab and having at least more tests done if not worse.

reply to post by Zaphod58


There are different rules for private versus commercial pilot license. Is this being accounted for in your somewhat friendly discussion? ;-)

reply to post by gariac


Well the quote about the blood test came from the FAA information about the class 2 certificate requirements, so I would assume it was right. Whether it was for initial testing or follow up testing is the question.

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Zaphod58: Did you get my U2U?

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I just saw out. Thanks, that'll come in handy.

I had FOIAd the USAF in June about the crash and I got a letter indicating that they can't find any records. I told them the tail number, date, and location, but I guess that wasn't good enough. Grrrr. I will follow up with an appeal.

It could be worse. They could have charged me and said they found nothing.

I was of the opinion there was nothing suspicious about this crash. I still am, but this does annoy me. I have never had a crash report not found. I mean people died, stuff broke, so of course there is paperwork on this event.

gariac
I had FOIAd the USAF in June about the crash and I got a letter indicating that they can't find any records. I told them the tail number, date, and location, but I guess that wasn't good enough. Grrrr. I will follow up with an appeal.

It could be worse. They could have charged me and said they found nothing.

I was of the opinion there was nothing suspicious about this crash. I still am, but this does annoy me. I have never had a crash report not found. I mean people died, stuff broke, so of course there is paperwork on this event.

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I am not surprised. I am beginning to think they will never let any more information out.

reply to post by STANDARD


It just makes it more interesting. If it was so straightforward why did the records "go missing".

Any updates on this gariac?

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No, I haven't got around to refiling the request. It is on the list.

hey guys, look what i just found:

Status: Final
Date: Tuesday 16 March 2004
Time: 04:01
Type: Silhouette image of generic B190 model; specific model in this crash may look slightly different
Beechcraft 1900C
Operator: United States Air Force - USAF
Registration: N27RA
C/n / msn: UB-37
First flight: 1985
Engines: 2 Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-65B
Crew: Fatalities: 1 / Occupants: 1
Passengers: Fatalities: 4 / Occupants: 4
Total: Fatalities: 5 / Occupants: 5
Airplane damage: Damaged beyond repair
Airplane fate: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location: 11 km (6.9 mls) SE of Tonopah-Test Range Airport, NV (XSD) (United States of America) show on map
Phase: Approach (APR)
Nature: Military
Departure airport: ?
Destination airport: Tonopah-Test Range Airport, NV (XSD), United States of America
Narrative:
The Air Force Materiel Command Beech 1900 crashed while on a routine support mission from a remote classified airstrip on the Nellis range to the Tonopah Test Range. It departed at 03:43 for Tonopah. After reporting the runway lights in sight, the pilot configured the airplane for the approach and initiated a circling maneuver to the right for a visual straight-in approach to runway 32. During the turn the pilot suffered a sudden cardiac death. Half way through the turn the airplane began a gradual descent until it impacted the ground. The airplane broke up and burst into flames. Investigation revealed that the pilot had violated federal policy and directives, willfully deceived flight medical examiners, suppressed significant medical information and ingested inappropriate medications for a deteriorating and dangerous health condition. The pilot had high blood pressure and failed to report it, and denied taking medications to his Federal Aviation Administration flight physical examiners.

According to the Air Force Materiel Command Accident Investigation Board report, the pilot became incapacitated during his approach to land due to sudden cardiac death.

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I'm not sure I follow you here since that is the same report that has been on the internet since shortly after the crash.
N27RA crash

Now that the sequester and holidays are over, I will attempt once again to get the longer report that the USAF couldn't find when I FOIAd them.

gariac
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I'm not sure I follow you here since that is the same report that has been on the internet since shortly after the crash.
N27RA crash

Now that the sequester and holidays are over, I will attempt once again to get the longer report that the USAF couldn't find when I FOIAd them.

Thanks gariac.

I've been researching my Uncle's death since the day it happened. Many things are just out of the ordinary.

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Any news Gariac? Thanks in advance.

STANDARD
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Any news Gariac? Thanks in advance.

Nope. When I get something, I will post it.

reply to post by gariac


Thanks, sorry for the trouble.

a reply to: gariac

Checking in gariac. Would u mind emailing me at all?

a reply to: STANDARD

You can PM me, but I have nothing. I'm just going to refile the FOIA.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Just in case you didn't see this.


www.dreamlandresort.com...

It does stink, the whole thing reeked. As his sister, we the family were flown out to Vegas to his favorite hotel. My brother Michael had no body, after two years and a very hefty lawsuit in which my sister in law received alot of money, rumored to be enough to set us all up with houses and cars, just dropped the family like a hot potato, we recieved the declassified. It was hard enough being ignored by his widow and waiting two years to hear what supposedly happened. They said Michael fell asleep and he was sitting over the engine so his body burned up. It was a beechcraft or beechcraft KA.

My brother was a genius. I know something happened. My sister in law tried very hard to convince me he was dead - which I found suspicious.

[snipped email due to privacy]
I'll give whatever info I have. I want to get to the bottom of it. The last thing I ever told him, was I loved him, and I never said that. He was my half blood, but he and I were more alike than he and his full blood sister. Something told me to say it, intuition, I've always had a sense of clairvoyance, ESP, etc. I'm sure he did too. Formerly he was a marine at Lejeune. Never sent overseas and couldnt rank up, so got fed up and moved on, even offered 35k to stay.

The second to last thing I ever said to him , two weeks before his death was, do aliens really exist? he told me, after a pause "even if they did, i couldnt tell you".

He died soon after. supposedly., I remember when we got home from dinner and we got the phone call. My mom hit her knees. My sister took the phone angrily, expecting a prank call. Her face changed, I will never forget. Walking the school halls numb, feeling alone. Michael was special. He was a genius, something more happened, I've discussed it with other marines, and the declassified is a bunch of BS.