"An Unusual Global Situation." - New H7N9 & MERS Coronavirus, Threaten an Unprecedented Pandemic.

"We haven't seen a comparable situation since 2003." ;

The emergence of a new strain of bird-flu H7N9, and the SARS-like Coronavirus; Creates a scenario that hasn't been seen for at least a decade.

The World Health Organization is in a race against time, to figure out the mysteries of two new viruses; before one of them evolves into a Global Pandemic.

"The world is unprepared for a massive virus outbreak. "

The world is unprepared for a massive virus outbreak, the deputy chief of the World Health Organization (WHO) warned Tuesday, amid fears that H7N9 bird flu striking China could morph into a form that spreads easily among people.

"Even though work has been done since that time, the world is not ready for a large, severe outbreak," Fukuda said. Rapid-reaction systems were crucial, given that health authorities' efforts are already hampered by lack of knowledge about such diseases, he insisted.

"When people get hit with an emerging disease, you can't just go to a book and know what to do," he said.

According to the latest official data, H7N9 avian influenza has infected 130 people in China, and killed 35, since it was found in humans for the first time in March.

Experts are struggling to understand how it spread to people. New information suggests that the virus can spread between mammals, and can also be transmitted through the air. Fears loom that it could adapt into a form that can be transmitted easily from human to human. Researchers have already announced that the virus H7N9 can 'combine and mutate' with swine-flu.

"This is a puzzling virus, surrounded by mystery,"

This comes just 10 years after a global SARS scare put the entire world on high alert. In 2003, the virus that started in Asia, spread to Hong-Kong, and eventually the world. Killing about 800 people worldwide. SARS-CoV was spread from animal hosts to human hosts, and eventually became transmissible between people.

H7N9 struck in China around the same time as fears mounted elsewhere over the SARS-like novel coronavirus, of which there have been 40 laboratory confirmed cases, including 20 deaths. While the virus has been deadliest in Saudi Arabia, which now counts 30 infections, half of them fatal, cases have also been reported in Jordan, Qatar, Germany, Britain and France.

"This is an unusual global situation," Fukuda said, underlining that the two viruses were unrelated. "We have not seen a comparable situation since 2003, when we had both the SARS virus emerge and then later the H5N1 virus reemerge," he said.

Fukuda said that novel coronavirus was "more complex" to deal with than H7N9.

"There is even less information, even less understanding about what is the reservoir," he said.

"We do not know which one is going to evolve and gain the characteristics that we don't want it to gain," he added.

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I made this thread following my previous thread, about 2 separate clusters of a 'mysterious unknown illness' in the United States.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I figured it might be a good idea to create a new thread. One that is more open to the overall discussion of current diseases in general. Rather than one that was initially associated with just 2 cases.

Here are some additional links:
- World's in 'new territory' with challenging new flu virus, WHO expert says
- Swine flu transmitted to California seals.
- New bird flu can spread to humans
- H7N9 bird flu and swine flu can "combine and mutate''

www.avianflutalk.com...

I understand the Alabama cases are near a bio weapens centre. Whether there is any connection or not......who knows?

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I'm glad you said that...

Back in late March, a 'Bio-security Lab' in Galveston, TX. reported that they had lost a deadly South-American virus. The Guanarito virus, is known to cause Hemorrhagic Fever.


Texas Biolab Loses Deadly Guanarito Virus

The Galveston National Laboratory lost one of five vials containing a deadly Venezuelan virus, according to the University of Texas Medical Branch, which owns the $174 million facility designed with the strictest security measures to hold the deadliest viruses in the country. Like Ebola, the missing Guanarito virus causes hemorrhagic fever, an illness named for "bleeding under the skin, in internal organs or from body orifices like the mouth, eyes, or ears," according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

abcnews.go.com...

The virus is also listed as being a potential bio-terror threat... due to the capability of weaponizing the disease.

The VHF agents are all highly infectious via the aerosol route, and most are quite stable as respirable aerosols. This means that they satisfy at least one criterion for being weaponized, and some clearly have the potential to be biological warfare threats. Most of these agents replicate in cell culture to concentrations sufficiently high to produce a small terrorist weapon, one suitable for introducing lethal doses of virus into the air intake of an airplane or office building. Some replicate to even higher concentrations, with obvious potential ramifications. Since the VHF agents cause serious diseases with high morbidity and mortality, their existence as endemic disease threats and as potential biological warfare weapons suggests a formidable potential impact on unit readiness. Further, returning troops may well be carrying exotic viral diseases to which the civilian population is not immune, a major public health concern

ci.vbi.vt.edu...

reply to post by iunlimited491
Isn't Texas the area where two young people died of a mysterious flu illness.

There is also similar cases in Germany of a German policeman dying with similar symptoms.

www.flutrackers.com...



rense.com...

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Yes, they're not too far apart either. They're at least within the same vicinity.

I've also noticed that the first one that died (the 17yr old male) must have lived near Beaumont, TX. Reports differ, but it is known that upon his father arriving home to find his son experiencing severe seizures... The father placed him in the car, and began towards Beaumont hospital.

Also located in Beaumont - is Port Arthur, home of the largest Saudi owned oil-refinery in the United States. - That is probably one of the few connections between the two areas. The MERS virus comes from Saudi Arabia, although I don't think anything links the victims to that place in particular.

I'm watching for other strange cases like the one you describe, and I'm seeing the same symptoms in just about every one... Plus, with the new information being released about H7N9 and it's ability to mutate... it just creates double the amount of possibilities.

Very strange indeed...

(EDIT: The 17 year old male victim also shot a feral pig and took home a smaller one, a month before he became ill... He kept the smaller pig as a pet.)

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At solar max we have pandemics. Viruses seem to mutate rapidly during the solar max period. Several viruses mutating.........well....let's hope they don't get together and start a 'party'.

Please... control your appetite to spread fear porn related to 'evil' viruses... As Jane Burgermeister has pointed out, this is the way that they get you to take their 'free' vaccines or buy lots of useless Tamiflu..

Not buying what your selling this time.

I am here with my fresh Garlic which kills viruses and scares away the bloodsuckers...

hmmm....

None of us will live forever. Do what you can do to leave the world and those around you in a better place and you have succeeded as a human.

That is all you may return to your regular programming.

reply to post by R_Clark
Haha! I'm not trying to spread fear porn! Lol!

I'm just trying to keep those who are interested, informed.

Following these stories is fascinating... It gets you thinking.

In any case, star for you. Lol.

This comes just 10 years after a global SARS scare put the entire world on high alert. In 2003, the virus that started in Asia, spread to Hong-Kong, and eventually the world. Killing about 800 people worldwide. SARS-CoV was spread from animal hosts to human hosts, and eventually became transmissible between people.

Let me correct you: it was not the SARS that put the entire world on high alert, but the lies and the fear spread by media. 800 casualties can be hardly counted as epidemic.
Pandemic on the other side...

According to the Medilexicon´s medical dictionary a pandemic is "Denoting a disease affecting or attacking the population of an extensive region, country, continent, global; extensively epidemic." A pandemic is an outbreak of global proportions. It happens when a novel virus emerges among humans - it causes serious illness and is easily human transmissible (spreads easily from person-to-person).

There are thousand of deaths yearly from regular flu, and yet nobody panics about that.
Viruses are mutating all the time; it something natural.
A funny statistical fact: there are more deaths from choking with food or falling down stairs than those deathly viruses they scare us with all the time.
It seems to me that someone is trying by all means to keep people in a constant state of fear and maybe push a new vaccine. Pathetic. Swine flu, bird flu, aliens farts flu, always the same scare tactics and always the same talk how unprepared we are. Is there any wonder people are afraid of their own shadow?

Originally posted by WhiteHat
Let me correct you: it was not the SARS that put the entire world on high alert, but the lies and the fear spread by media.

The first case of SARS was first reported in the Guangdong Province of China.

China, is one of the most populated countries in the world. And also, the top exporting country. Bar none.

The virus then spread to Hong-Kong. Hong-Kong is considered by many to be - 'a doorway to the world' - on account of the frequency at which travelers enter and leave the city.

Not to long after the virus infected Hong-Kong, SARS was then reported in Canada. Once the illness had reached the west... the W.H.O. immediately issued a Global Alert for Severe-Acute-Respiratory-Syndrome. (SARS)

The MERS virus may not be in the U.S. yet, but it is definitely on its way.

Saudi Arabia to send coronavirus samples to US

GENEVA: Saudi Arabia said Friday it would send samples taken from animals possibly infected with a deadly SARS-like virus to the United States (US) for testing in a bid to find the source of disease.

The Saudi health ministry has “collected large samples from bats and other animals, including camels, sheep and cats,” said Saudi Deputy Health Minister Ziad Memish.

So far, there have been 44 lab-confirmed cases worldwide of the virus, which until now has been known as the novel coronavirus, or nCoV-EMC, but was this week redubbed the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus, or MERS.

Saudi Arabia counts by far the most cases, with 30 confirmed infections and 17 fatalities, while cases have also been detected in Jordan, Qatar, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, Germany, Britain and France.

The virus is a cousin of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), which triggered a scare 10 years ago when it erupted in east Asia, leaping to humans from animal hosts and eventually killing some 800 people.

Scientists at the Erasmus medical center in Rotterdam have determined that the virus appears to infect the body via a docking point in lung cells, suggesting bats may be a natural reservoir for it.

Bats were also pinpointed as a likely natural reservoir for SARS in a 2005 study, and are known carriers of the deadly hemorrhagic fever Ebola.

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Hmm... lets see... keeping the thread in motion, I'll post updates and other information as I go along...

H7N9 & MERS coronavirus... 'unusual' isn't the word... Lol.

Researching all these things can be rather confusing at times, because while keeping an open mind you can lose your rational thinking. Haha. There is just something there that kind of leaps out at you. Bouncing back and forth between diseases, 'mystery' illnesses, etc. - You start seeing a link in everything. But it's very important to keep a line drawn between all of this information. - You don't want to start 'tripping.' (if you will) Lol. You remember one thing; connect it to the next thing; then forget about the other thing; and learn about a new thing; - It's like a chain-reaction.

It's very hard to explain. But, I think it goes without saying. Lol.

Originally posted by Elliot
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At solar max we have pandemics. Viruses seem to mutate rapidly during the solar max period. Several viruses mutating.........well....let's hope they don't get together and start a 'party'.

edit on 25-5-2013 by Elliot because: (no reason given)

Might be because of 2800 to 3100 angstrom UV light. Light n this range is also used to germinate seeds. It's very possible, even probable, that the correct power levels in microwatts to milliwatts of UV might cause genetic changes.

Cheers - Dave

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It would be interesting to see the "incubation" time lines of these "viruses"?

Terrorism - send an infected person through many airports and around the world - see how many areas of the world you can infect?

I'm with the others - scare people into getting vaccines that most likely give you and yours the infection.

Garlic, onions, vitamin C and self-quarantine.

As was mentioned in the article, SARS was the last time something like this happened and it managed to kill 800 people. That's 800 out of 7,000,000,000. That puts it into perspective.

I'm not saying it's not a concern, but the WHO's penchant for crying pandemic (funny how many WHO members were former Big Pharma execs with a vaccine agenda to push) makes me pretty skeptical.

Time will tell.

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I agree with some of what you said, and 800/700,000,000 is a small fraction. Big-Pharma companies are surely going to compete over who makes the vaccines or drugs for the disease. But so far, anti-viral drugs have had no effect on the virus, and a vaccine is improbable.

Contrary to popular belief, a SARS vaccine does not exist. All clinically tested SARS vaccines produced a new infection in the lungs. While some SARS vaccines were capable of protecting against infection, all test subjects developed inflammation of the lungs, and ultimately lung disease. The spread of the SARS virus was only eradicated because agencies were eventually able to contain and control it. Tests remained ongoing after 02-03, due to the threat of a natural or deliberate re-release of the virus.

What that tells you, is that scientists have been working on cures and vaccines for SARS-like coronaviruses for the past decade, to no avail.

EXPERTS: "SARS-Like Virus Vaccine Unlikely."

Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus

Of course, some people think viruses are very good things!

Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988. In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation. Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.

www.propagandamatrix.com...

Originally posted by Happy1
It would be interesting to see the "incubation" time lines of these "viruses"?

an incubation period from three to five days could potentially be consistent with the incubation period of human coronaviruses.

www.eurosurveillance.org...
^^More information at the link above.


If you're suggesting to see the incubation period of each individual case, then I completely agree with you. That would be very interesting, and it would also be very useful when researching different 'mystery' illness cases.