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We all heard the case where the Phoenix police raided the Veteran's house who got his AR-15 out when his wife saw a shadow (swat) go by the window. It was early morning but he was in bed having worked the night shift I believe. He was holding the rifle with safety on when they broke in and did not attempt to fire on the police who then shot at him about 90x hitting him < 20
but he did not die immediately. Paramedics were called but the police would not let them treat the man who then bled out on the scene. You can probably google it but there should also be a thread about it on ATS. There are other cases....but often the paramedics never get called as the police apparently think that every physical complaint by someone in their custody is frivolous.
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by blackthorne
Well, when you cherry pick outrageous incidents, it looks awful bad. In this case, the dude couldn’t catch his breath and died.
OP’s Source
Positional asphyxia is typically the result of an intense struggle and often involves a person who is handcuffed and lying on their stomach after the struggle. Kirkham said people often panic and can't catch their breath. People with larger stomachs are particularly vulnerable, he said, because their bellies will push into their sternums, making breathing even more difficult.
It sounds like he had a big belly and couldn’t catch his breath after being cuffed and made to lay face down. Maybe if he didn’t act like a jackass and force the theatre employees to call the cops to have him removed (he refused to leave) then he wouldn’t have been handcuffed and made to lay down.
It appears to be an accident in this case! There are many cases of police brutality but this isn’t one of them!
I'm not saying that we don't have a police problem in this country but this incident doesn't seem to fit the bill IMO.
Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by seabag
We all heard the case where the Phoenix police raided the Veteran's house who got his AR-15 out when his wife saw a shadow (swat) go by the window. It was early morning but he was in bed having worked the night shift I believe. He was holding the rifle with safety on when they broke in and did not attempt to fire on the police who then shot at him about 90x hitting him < 20 but he did not die immediately. Paramedics were called but the police would not let them treat the man who then bled out on the scene. You can probably google it but there should also be a thread about it on ATS. There are other cases....but often the paramedics never get called as the police apparently think that every physical complaint by someone in their custody is frivolous.
Originally posted by blackthorne
i was a military police man for the navy for four years at concord naval weapons station in concord, california. 91-95. i had my training at lackland a.f.b. in texas. i say this because i am sick and tired of hearing stories such as this occurring more and more.
www.huffingtonpost.com...
what is happening to the police in this country? they shoot two women and a caucasion man while looking for that former cop last week. they looked nothing like him! they killed that homeless guy in southern california who had mental problems. up near where i live, a decade ago they shot a man who was in his own driveway, drunk, yelling (he was angry) while he was holding a broom. they said he was wielding like he was a marttial arts master. his wife said that he has no training at all. she was also a nurse and they did not let her aid him.
in another incident close to where i live, they shot a teen who had a small knife a 2 inch blade. couldn't they have used their pr-24's to knock it out of his hand? why are they going to the gun so damn quick?