VT withdraws "assualt rifle" ban

VT senator withdraws assault rifle ban

Good news in my home state. VT has always had very few gun laws and I am glad to see it is staying that way for the time being. We had hundreds if not thousands at the state capitol for "Gun appreciation day" January 19th in protest of any new gun legislation. I hope other states start to do the same and realize that the gun isn't the issue and it should not be blamed for every single act of violence these crazy people commit.

My guess is that more of these proposed legislations will become defacto "FTEs*."

*Failure To Eject

Wow, seems like VT must have better than average reps, or voters that will actually hold them accountable. Either way, it's refreshing to see some reps actually listening to their constituents for a change, instead of thinking they know better, and doing what they want, regardless of what the people want.

Sounds to me like a case where doing something managed to accomplish something.

I noticed the article won't credit the people power demonstration but the timing to yank the bill is mighty coincidental. I just can't help but think if no one had bothered to drop the chips and get off the couch to show up in person, they wouldn't have cared half as much for 'listening' to the people. They have a ratio worked out too... xx number of people figured for representation to each 1 person who personally protests or sends a physical mail vs each Email and phone call. It's all very (un)scientific and all but people power can work! It's ALL a game of numbers.

Go Vermont!

According to WCAX about 200 people showed up for the event. This bill was introduced by only one person (a Chittenden County senator), so I'm not sure how much support he even had among Democrats as a whole. The news I get the biggest kick from is how a firing range banned the Burlington Police Department because their city council is attempting to create a city-wide 'assault weapons' ban.

I sent the following to all of my senators and representatives:

Mr./Ms. xxx

I write to you to let you know that I am opposed to any legislation that may restrict Vermonters' right to keep and bear arms. Vermont has the most permissive gun laws of any state, yet boasts one of the lowest gun violence rates; clearly, Vermont's laws (or lack thereof) are working and need not be tinkered with. The right to bear arms is not only the right to hunt and defend oneself, but an additional set of checks and balances against tyranny. A favorite saying of mine (that I have heard from others) is that an armed population is comprised of citizens, whereas an unarmed population consists of subjects. With so many historical examples of extreme atrocities committed upon unarmed populations by their own governments, I am convinced that any further erosion of the Second Amendment presents a potential threat to the people of the United States.

One of my senators wrote back simply: "I agree with you."
She's got my vote!

I also sent a slightly modified copy to Welch, Sanders, and Leahy. It blows my mind that they are in support of an AWB and magazine capacity limit even though we are a shining star of firearms liberties and low violence. I'm pretty liberal, but I cannot abide these laws being formulated and enacted.

stopping the exchange of guns for drugs

this is what i found most interesting from your source op(other then the good news) but where in the hell did they get the idea that exchanging guns for drugs was EVER a good idea? im off to find info on the alleged program

edit: i guess i should ask for clarification first in the sense did that mean that vt was asking people to turn in their guns in exchage for drugs or did i read it completely wrong


ah never mind im an idiot they wanted to stop people for trading guns for drugs not the state giving you drugs if you gave them your gun sorry

star and flag op

Nice to see these reports that our government still listens to the people, at least at the state level. Now, to get the federal gov to listen...

Sounds to me as if SOMEBODY in VT finally got the word from the MSM (NBC/MSNBC) that there were NO assault rifles used in the Sandy Hook tragedy - at least not by the bad guy(s).
Regardless, let's all give Vermont a big

ganjoa

It's so freaking ridiculous that in a state with virtually no crime and no gun laws to speak of that some reactionary lunatic jumped in head first with such a piece of asinine legislation.

That moron should be kicked out of VT. Send him to MA.

As some distance from the tradgedy has now been attained, the ardour of the rteactionary cries for gun restrictions is waning.....
The overwhelming votes Americans cast at their local gun and ammo stores i think,.... are the main argument that will stop further picking away at the 2nd amendment.
It seems the talk of banning just spurred the sales of all types of guns, to even many first time buyers....these would likely have remained unarmed if the scare hadnt backfired on the goverments, spin doctors........
All, in all, the SH tradgedy has actually worked to the disadvantage of those who would have used it for a political agenda.....and has gone further towards setting a line in the sand regards any further restrictions on an armed American populace...
This has drawn many people off the fence, and opened many eyes to the fascist danger we are facing.

Originally posted by stirling
As some distance from the tradgedy has now been attained, the ardour of the rteactionary cries for gun restrictions is waning.....
The overwhelming votes Americans cast at their local gun and ammo stores i think,.... are the main argument that will stop further picking away at the 2nd amendment.
It seems the talk of banning just spurred the sales of all types of guns, to even many first time buyers....these would likely have remained unarmed if the scare hadnt backfired on the goverments, spin doctors........
All, in all, the SH tradgedy has actually worked to the disadvantage of those who would have used it for a political agenda.....and has gone further towards setting a line in the sand regards any further restrictions on an armed American populace...
This has drawn many people off the fence, and opened many eyes to the fascist danger we are facing.

You're telling me. I personally own 4 firearms. Technically they are all on the governments "want list" because they are all magazine fed. Luckily I stocked up before the Aurora shooting because 223 and 5.56 are hard to come by/damn near impossible and the prices have gone way up. I was surprised to see how hard it is to find .22LR ammo - I havent been able to find 500 round bricks anywhere and I wasnt expecting that caliber to be one of the biggest buy-outs. From what I have read, some people think .22 ammo will be currency if SHTF. 30-06 is fairly available, obviously it was easier to get before the CT shooting but still out there now. I don't really stock up on that because rifle hunting season is only about 2 weeks in November here. .45ACP is hit or miss. Some places have plenty and others are completely out.

It does drive business. Guns and ammo are one of the very few parts of this economy that are booming. I am glad to see the local family owned shops busy every time I go in or even drive by.

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As some distance from the tradgedy has now been attained, the ardour of the rteactionary cries for gun restrictions is waning.....

So be prepared to see another tragedy. This time they will set it up at an old age home when a children's choir is visiting.

Let's hope this is the beginning of a "return to reason" trend.

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By "Crazy people" you must mean, white males early 20's with mental problems prescribed to some type pharmaceutical mood inhibitor that has a history of causing fits of rage ? And Dads a banker ?

NYers will tell Cuomo in no uncertain terms to go F himself. Bloomberg, too.
A law is only a law if its enforced and obeyed.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
It's so freaking ridiculous that in a state with virtually no crime and no gun laws to speak of that some reactionary lunatic jumped in head first with such a piece of asinine legislation.

That moron should be kicked out of VT. Send him to MA.

So true. Some people will never get it.

Funny you should mention MA. My brother lives there and was telling me just yesterday that they are gearing up to enact NY-style restrictions soon.

Did you know that it's actually illegal to shoot a paper target with a silhouette of a person on it in MA? I'd call that a severe case of paranoia.

Originally posted by randyvs
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By "Crazy people" you must mean, white males early 20's with mental problems prescribed to some type pharmaceutical mood inhibitor that has a history of causing fits of rage ? And Dads a banker ?

LOL... "And Dad's a banker"

Too telling for people who are paying attention. They've overplayed their hand, and they're just now figuring that out.

I can't wait to see what kind of B.S. Hillary has been told to feed us about Benghazi...

Mods: Don't declare this an "off topic" post. The psyops mentioned here are ALL related, as they are all part of the "endgame" that the powers that were are trying to pull off. So far, they're not doing so well, with their pants down around their ankles.

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I mean common ! Do they really just expect us to ignore the mix of sheer genius and total brain death we see in the, " Lets get the children involved " school shootings. Since theater's and malls aren't working so well ? So VT is cool for now. But IDK, maybe our gov. can come up enough mind controlled whack jobs ( I'm white BTW ) to kill us all and forget about passing laws ?

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SSRI anti-depressants are the real underlying issue with these mass shooters...not guns.

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Another Vermonter, welcome my friend. Thank god, we live in this State.