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Originally posted by ImpactoR
reply to post by eyeinoz
In 2012 large sunspots have been observed. While sunspots are usual occurence, some of them were big. Together with a cometh flying near the Sun, it may trigger something enourmous.
It's also the coming of the solar maximum peaking in 2013, think what it may mean with a comet on the front. ANYTHING is possible!
Massive solar flare 'could paralyse Earth in 2013'
www.dailymail.co.uk...
Scientists eye large, newly discovered comet that might crash into the sun in 2013
You don't know what this may cause!edit on 31-12-2012 by ImpactoR because: (no reason given)
The 1910 approach, which came into naked-eye view around 10 April[57] and came to perihelion on 20 April,[57] was notable for several reasons: it was the first approach of which photographs exist, and the first for which spectroscopic data were obtained.[13] Furthermore, the comet made a relatively close approach of 0.15AU,[57] making it a spectacular sight. Indeed, on 19 May, the Earth actually passed through the tail of the comet.
One of the substances discovered in the tail by spectroscopic analysis was the toxic gas cyanogen,[74] which led astronomer Camille Flammarion to claim that, when Earth passed through the tail, the gas "would impregnate the atmosphere and possibly snuff out all life on the planet."[75] His pronouncement led to panicked buying of gas masks and quack "anti-comet pills" and "anti-comet umbrellas" by the public.[76] In reality, as other astronomers were quick to point out, the gas is so diffuse that the world suffered no ill effects from the passage through the tail.[75] The comet was also fertile ground for hoaxes. One that reached major newspapers claimed that the Sacred Followers, a supposed Oklahoma religious group, attempted to sacrifice a virgin to ward off the impending disaster, but were stopped by the police.[77]
Originally posted by ImpactoR
reply to post by DarkSecret
Yes, I am sure you haven't studied Astrronomy as I have to speak to me about education. My point is that around all these events, you never know when something may happen that may affect Earth, it doesn't have to be a direct impact with the planet.
But those for whom everything is so simple, we will talk again and I will ask again and say 'nothing will happen' when one day there is an actual threat whether this 2013 or another year.
P.S I am testing your reactions, though I was familiarizing myself with the event since I had no idea the trajectory of the comet until I started this thread.
So far the results show me: Ignorance - being certain that nothing will happen ever or that it will happen in millions of years because some encyclopedia blah blah says so.. lawl. Nope, any of these cosmic events could affect us, we just don't know when..
Admitting you have no knowledge of something to happen is better than being certain in nothing will happen, certainty based on nothingedit on 3-1-2013 by ImpactoR because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DarkSecret
Well I can make those kinds of predictions too, and science is on my side. I can tell you with absolute certainty that in around 4-5 billion years (who cares what the exact date would be, you 2012ers couldn't get it right either!) the Sun will expand and burn up all the inner planets, including Earth. And anything that's gonna be alive at that point will die!
OK now go back to school. Or the principal's office cuz you're being a little know it all. Get some after-hours detention to catch up on logic and how you can't prove a negative or blame others because they can't!
Originally posted by ImpactoR
Originally posted by DarkSecret
Well I can make those kinds of predictions too, and science is on my side. I can tell you with absolute certainty that in around 4-5 billion years (who cares what the exact date would be, you 2012ers couldn't get it right either!) the Sun will expand and burn up all the inner planets, including Earth. And anything that's gonna be alive at that point will die!
OK now go back to school. Or the principal's office cuz you're being a little know it all. Get some after-hours detention to catch up on logic and how you can't prove a negative or blame others because they can't!
LOL! SO this is your 'scientific' approach? Who is know it all, again? How can you say what will happen to the Earth billions of years ago (THEORY and that's it) when the planet could be long gone in hundreds or thousands of years? See, I have been a kid too, I have read in encyclopedia too, the Earth will burn/die/whatever in billions of years blah blah blah
I say let's think in shorter term, also I was speaking of the general certainty with no base 'Nothing will happen FOR SURE any time soon' - really? Guess you want to be one of those with this look on your face
and all the close-minded scientists you join?
We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.
Carl Sagan
Originally posted by ImpactoR
reply to post by DarkSecret
I never believed 2012 because I am objective and unlike the close-minded scientists you join, I am open for possibilities of unexpected things.
closed-mind·ed
[klohzd-mahyn-did]
adjective
having a mind firmly unreceptive to new ideas or arguments: It's hard to argue with, much less convince, a closed-minded person.
Originally posted by eriktheawful
Do you actually think that scientist never consider the possibility that they may be wrong about something, or that completely unexpected results can happen?
Do you consider someone "closed minded" if they say: C/2012 S1 has a very low probability of causing any harm to the Earth, based upon other comets, scientific data, orbital mechanics and a multitude of other scientific fields that contribute data on this event?
Originally posted by ImpactoR
Originally posted by eriktheawful
Do you actually think that scientist never consider the possibility that they may be wrong about something, or that completely unexpected results can happen?
Do you consider someone "closed minded" if they say: C/2012 S1 has a very low probability of causing any harm to the Earth, based upon other comets, scientific data, orbital mechanics and a multitude of other scientific fields that contribute data on this event?
Yes there are such scientists, and since I explained I myself do not think the comet will bring anything, unless it coincides with something else, done by the sun, etc. smth no one expects. So based on that and I said what I think of the cometh, I was just quoting sources at firsy, what do you think? Am I considering those who dont think the comet will cause anything close-minded or are you just twisting my words? You are doing the second...
Yes there are very close-minded scientist in the scientist community, those who belittle things when they can happen.
And if we talk about close-minded people, I am not one of them sorry, I know when there is a real threat and when not. Close-minded people like the one above telling me how the Earth will die in billions of years and I was asking - what makes him certain about the next DECADEs and centuries it cannot happen? I can list you asteroids with possible impact in just the next decades.