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Originally posted by SpearMint
Originally posted by yourmaker
why cant it just always have existed? why is that question denied so harshly?
the space before the big bang existed infinitely and will always exist.
its beyond our comprehension as we are just appearing right in the middle and will die out just as quickly.
imo
The fact that it's still expanding faster than the speed of light strongly suggests it wasn't there before.
Originally posted by jiggerj
If Ed Hubble looked at one side of a busy highway, with all the cars of a morning commute heading in one direction, would he conclude that if he reversed the direction of the cars they would come from a single point?
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by jiggerj
It expands the same way mind expands. If you want to understand what is at the edge of the universe. Understand whats at the edge of the mind.
If you take the traffic analogy to the hubble constant, it's nothing like the morning commute.
Originally posted by jiggerj
It's early for me, so if this doesn't make sense, just ignore: If Ed Hubble looked at one side of a busy highway, with all the cars of a morning commute heading in one direction, would he conclude that if he reversed the direction of the cars they would come from a single point? And would he also conclude that the highway is expanding because all of the cars are moving away from him? And yet, from his vantage point he wouldn't be able to see the highway and exits further down the road.
Originally posted by Hefficide
If physics are correct then, for the most part, things on an unfathomably large scale, should work the same as similar things would on a smaller, more easily understood scale. As above, so below, so to speak.
So that's how I tend to approach these mind twisting concepts.
~Heff
Originally posted by ubeenhad
reply to post by jiggerj
Lol. I love this sh#.
keep hurting your brain bro. The only fix is a decent dose of quantum mechanics.
These Quantum Particle/Wave Forms also BLINK IN AND OUT OF OUR UNIVERSAL REALITY.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by jiggerj
Yeah, I agree. Once one goes subatomic it all seems to fall apart. How I rationalize that, in my own mind, is perspective. If we look at entire quadrants of the galaxy - HUGE chunks of space, they appear, to us at least, to be basically stagnant and still. So I figure perception of time has something to do with scale. And if the unfathomably large seems to not be moving at all - then it follows that the unfathomably small would be moving at such a fast pace as to seem incomprehensible and even contrary.
I am sure some science guy will come along and explain why I'm wrong - and the best defense I have is, even if I am technically incorrect, it helps me to understand things that are incredibly difficult to understand on a human ( non mathematical ) level.
So, I see it like a gravity function, where smaller things move faster than larger things. This helps me keep the whole concept of a fractal reality consistent, at least in my own head.
~Heff
Originally posted by buster2010
Here's are some good videos on the subject.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by buster2010
Here's are some good videos on the subject.
Thanks, buster. Next time I come here to not have a conversation, I'll certainly look at the videos.
Originally posted by davethebear
I don't know....................