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Originally posted by queenannie38
reply to post by ColCurious
I also do not think that freedom of speech is something we should defend when it is abused...i.e. as in shouting fire in a crowded theater that is not on fire. The reason is obvious. [...]
That isn't freedom of speech but abuse of that freedom. While it may not be illegal in so many words, it is still wrong. But that doesn't make the violence that erupted any less wrong...[...]
But I can't defend someone who uses that same freedom to incite attacks against other people.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
If I badmouth the government of america bad enough do you not think I would get locked up in some federal jail or even killed covertly by the cia??????
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Freedom of speech? Does that include iran's right to call israel what it wants OR DOES IT ONLY INCLUDE THE RIGHT OF ISRAEL TO BADMOUTH IRAN?
Originally posted by Patoote
Let all Western Embassies pull out with personnel and aid and let these people fend for themselves.
Originally posted by ColCurious
reply to post by queenannie38
Originally posted by queenannie38
But I can't defend someone who uses that same freedom to incite attacks against other people.
And that's where we disagree.
We should absolutely defend our freedom of speech, EVEN when it's abused by ignorant idiots.
The content anyone chooses to express CAN NOT negate this fundamental constitutional right. EVER.
The way to cope with an insult is to #ing grow a pair and get over it.
That's what we teach minors in kindergarten, isn't it?
Is it really asking too much to expect the same level of maturity of those religious nuts who are running rampant in the middle east?
If we start to restrict our freedoms whenever someone feels offended, where do we draw the line?
J. Christopher Stevens' family has a reason to complain.
Anyone who feels his imaginary prophet was insulted on youtube does not.
Around 300 people have been protesting outside the US Embassy in London as demonstrations over an American-made anti-Islam film spread across Europe.
The crowd - many associated with the hardline Hizb ut-Tahrir group - shouted slogans and held placards saying, "America - get out of Muslim lands".
The gathering, mostly men but including some women and children, listened to speakers condemning the controversial film, US foreign policy and "oppression" of Muslims.
Hundreds In London Anti-Islam Film Protest
Originally posted by queenannie38
To use that right to knowingly provoke others for one's own aims, either without consideration for, or worse even, being fully aware that, it is more than likely and even probable if not certain, that such an exercise will result in someone's death, seems to me to be bordering on ideas like 'reckless endangerment.
Originally posted by queenannie38
It is selfish and childish and while those traits don't restrict anyone's right under the first amendment, they have, in this case, I think, infringed on other rights of other people...[...]
The crowd - many associated with the hardline Hizb ut-Tahrir group - shouted slogans and held placards saying, "America - get out of Muslim lands".