A firefighter who was at the WTC told me he saw and heard the controlled demolition explosions

I think its my first post on this 9/11 forum, but I had to write this, by coincidence I met a firefighter who was in the WTC, I cant say who he is, but lets say he was a TOP person in the fire department and police department, and has experience on controlled demolitions, he rescued a few people that day and also got stuck and had to be rescued, that's all I can say about him.

He told me "I was there in the middle of all, I saw and heard explosions (controlled bang's) of the first tower and I knew something was wrong, when the second tower went down, I heard the same consistent bang, bang, bang same sound I hear on controlled demolitions that I have participated" He says the way the WTC was built if the top floors went down, there is a 80% that the rubble will go to the side and 1/4 of the base with still be visible, the only way to take the WTC straight down is with a controlled demolition.

Other co-workers think the same way, that it was a controlled demolition , either by the government or terrorists.

I never care much about the 9/11 conspiracies until now. if it was the government doing this on purpose just to have an excuse to go overseas, its just sick.

In most of the "movies" about 9/11 there are a few infamous clips of firefighters and they hear the explosions.

one video

also this one


the most famous one (imo)

so yes i do believe there were extra planted explosions that took the building down.

Originally posted by scottromansky
In most of the "movies" about 9/11 there are a few infamous clips of firefighters and they hear the explosions.

one video

also this one


the most famous one (imo)

so yes i do believe there were extra planted explosions that took the building down.

Thats what I have seen before but hearing this from a person who was there under the rubble, with experience in demolition, got me very interested. Now the big question is "Who benefits from this?" of course the US gov.

Was he inside the buildings?

Another thing about the sounds of "the controlled demolition" is the way the towers collapsed, misjudged by the sound of each floor hitting the next one on it's way down.

These guys are just conspiracy nuts. Vipertech and Hooper know so.

On a serious note it is sad that a lot of firefighters are pretty much afraid to go public with what they heard/saw that day. Although the select few have come forward it would be nice to hear from more who were there that day.

I don't even know how the OS is still widely believed today. Oh wait, yes I do. Cognitive Dissonance anyone?

Great info, I hope that this story is true man. If so S&F

Originally posted by cdesigns

Originally posted by scottromansky

Thats what I have seen before but hearing this from a person who was there under the rubble, with experience in demolition, got me very interested. Now the big question is "Who benefits from this?" of course the US gov.

Just because you said that the correct answer is ISRAEL. Israel allegedly planned and executed the attack under the guise that it was middle eastern terrorist.

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Like you I tend to stay away from 9-11 threads, but since you have what appears to be Zero agenda I think I'll hang out here and see what happens.

I for one, using just plain old common sense can see that the destruction of three buildings were not caused solely by flight school flunking Arabs.

Originally posted by cdesigns
I think its my first post on this 9/11 forum, but I had to write this, by coincidence I met a firefighter who was in the WTC, I cant say who he is, but lets say he was a TOP person in the fire department and police department,

So, you met a firefighter who was in the WTC and was a TOP person in the fire department and the police department?

This has bull # written all over it.

and has experience on controlled demolitions,

Wow... a jack of all trades!

He says the way the WTC was built if the top floors went down, there is a 80% that the rubble will go to the side and 1/4 of the base with still be visible, the only way to take the WTC straight down is with a controlled demolition.

He is actually partially correct... the towers collapsed with about 86% of the debris outside of its own footprint.

B.S. Thread 100%

Apparently Larry Silverstein benefited from the attacks also.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder


Just because you said that the correct answer is ISRAEL. Israel allegedly planned and executed the attack under the guise that it was middle eastern terrorist.

Just because you said that, the correct answer is THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER. He allegedly planned and executed the guise that it was middle eastern terrorists.

My "logic" view.

The planes hit the towers, i think we can all agree on that, my judgement is from the videos showing the planes hit.

The towers start to collapse from the area the planes hit, and collapse step by step from the added weight of the floors above.

If you want to create a controlled demolition, and at the same time make it look like the planes damage to the building is the cause of the collapse, you would have to plan this in such a precision that, nothing viewed from outside(witneses or news cameras) would suspect anything else, plus the explosives would have to be absolutly placed right, to not get damaged and fail when the planes hit.

Imposible IMO, i dont think there where any explosives placed in the building, it would be to risky to fail if you want to do it flawless.

The only thing that makes me think it's an inside job, is the Pentagon crash.

Originally posted by Mianeye

If you want to create a controlled demolition, and at the same time make it look like the planes damage to the building is the cause of the collapse, you would have to plan this in such a precision that, nothing viewed from outside(witneses or news cameras) would suspect anything else, plus the explosives would have to be absolutly placed right, to not get damaged and failed when the planes hit.

Imposible IMO, i dont think there where any explosives placed in the building, it would be to risky to fail if you want to do it flawless.

I have read a lot into this, and its also plastered all over this forum i bet. 2 weeks prior there was a "blackout" i read about where they cut the power to certain floors, blocked off elevators, and stairwells in order to get "workers" to place the charges.

It takes months and months of planning and preparation in order to pull off a demolition In the time it took for the plane to hit and where the buildings fell if they even wanted to plant the charges in that time they couldn't do it.

George Bush's younger brother, Marvin Bush, was the Director of Securacom, the company that provided electronic security for both the World Trade Center and Washington Dulles Airport (where Flight 77 took off) on 9/11. George Bushs cousin, Wirt D. Walker III, was CEO of this company from 1999 to 2002. Securacom had an $8.3 million contract from 1996-2002 to install a new security system. Scott Forbes, a Senior Database Administrator for Fiduciary Trust, reports unprecedented power-downs for the whole weekend prior to 9/11. William Rodriguez, the 9/11 Last Survivor, explains that the security doors were left wide open for anyone to go in or out, and the security cameras were turned off.

Originally posted by cdesigns
I think its my first post on this 9/11 forum, but I had to write this, by coincidence I met a firefighter who was in the WTC, I cant say who he is, but lets say he was a TOP person in the fire department and police department, and has experience on controlled demolitions, he rescued a few people that day and also got stuck and had to be rescued, that's all I can say about him.

Suuurrrreeee you did. There's no such thing as someone who'd be "the top person" of the NYFD *and* the NYPD except the mayor becuase they're two completely separate municipal departments. The TOP top leader of the NYFD on 9/11 was former fire commissioner Thomas Von Essen, and he has no experience in controlled demolitions since the NYFD was his only career and he although he was on site (he was almost killed by a falling jumper) he was never stuck. The truthers are accusimg HIM of being involved in the coverup too (he was a Gulliani appointee) so it's obvious he ain't your ally.

This is almost certainly a case of scenario B I suggested earlier, after the "con artist looking to make a fast buck" scenario A of why people are spreading fake conspiracy information- some troller is intentionally posting nonsense as a practical joke so he can laugh his [censored] off at the mischief it might stir up.

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Not so.

Larry lost BILLIONS

Funny thing about truthers, boy, they sure dont like telling the truth.

Click here to learn more about this warning.

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HERE lists

In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million

After the attack, Silverstein Properties commenced litigation against its insurers, claiming it was entitled to twice the insurance policies' value because, according to a spokesman for Mr. Silverstein, "the two hijacked airliners that struck the 110-story twin towers Sept. 11 were separate 'occurrences' for insurance purposes, entitling him to collect twice on $3.6 billion of policies." This was reported in the Bloomberg News less than one month after the attack.

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www.abovetopsecret.com...

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It was once counted out. He lost a lot of money. He still had to pay for the hole in the ground, every month. $10 million a month.

www.cbsnews.com...

After Sept. 11, 2001, Silverstein continued paying rent without interruption of $120 million a year, or $10 million a month (over $300,000 a day).

Sure does suck paying rent with no income from a giant hole in the ground for years. Yea thats a GREAT way to make money. Remind me to never have a truther be my financial adviser.

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Lol okay there Timmy. "Bunch of stupid trufers!!"

The New York Port Authority originally planned to use 5,000 tons of asbestos fireproofing. The fireproofing, trademarked Blade-Shield, was manufactured by United States Mineral Products of Stanhope, N.J. It was 20% asbestos mixed with mineral wool — a concrete-like substance made from melted rock.

The Port Authority claims that over half of the applied asbestos-containing fireproofing had been removed by September 11, 2001. So, how much asbestos remained in the Twin Towers? Etimates vary from 400 tons all the way up to 2000 tons.

According to Indymedia’s research, “W.R. Grace asbestos-containing insulation was used at the WTC.” “Grace Vermiculite...was 2-5 percent asbestos. 100,000 80 pound bags of this vermiculite were used in the WTC. In addition, 9,150 pounds of MonoKote 3 was used at the WTC. MonoKote 3 was about 20 percent asbestos. Therefore, in total about 201,183 pounds of pure asbestos fiber from Grace alone was used in the WTC.”11 According to the National Resources Defense Council report of February 2002, an estimated 300 to 400 tons of asbestos from all vendors was used during construction.12 We can reliably estimate, therefore, that at least 400 tons of asbestos fibers, and possibly more, were in the buildings at the time of the collapse.

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T&N, formerly the largest asbestos company in Britain, reached a favorable settlement with the Port Authority on a $600 million lawsuit against 37 defendants, including T&N, for asbestos contamination of municipal buildings, including the WTC. Further, the Port Authority lost a 10-year court battle to get its insurers to pay more than $600 million for removing asbestos from its properties, including the World Trade Center and New York's airports. The judge ruled that asbestos-abatement costs by themselves do not constitute "physical loss or damage" under the Port Authority's all-risk policies.

34 floors? Straight from debunking911.com huh buddy?

In 1971, however, the City of New York had banned the use of asbestos in spray fireproofing. At that time, asbestos insulating material had only been sprayed up to the 64th floor of the World Trade Center towers. The floors above 64th floor were not sprayed with asbestos based fire retardant.

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In 1971, New York City banned the use of asbestos in spray fireproofing. At that time, asbestos insulating material had only been sprayed up to the 64th floor of the World Trade Center towers.

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1971, the New York City Council banned the use of this material, as the dangers of asbestos were becoming widespread. The spraying was halted, but the towers were already coated in hundreds of tons of the asbestos fireproofing, reaching up to the 64th floor.

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For a guy that complains about "trufers" lying, you sure do BS quite a bit yourself.

Not to mention the connections to war-profiteers he has. Netanyahu and Silverstiend are also connected. Netanyahu coined the phrase "war on terror" back in 68 I think.

Silverstein is worth 3.5 Billion that you know about.

I'm sure he had a little extra incentive to give up 120,000,000 a year as well. You know, being connected and all. Pretty much a spoke in a wheel.

But no right...."Just a bunch of lying trufers."

You people make me sick because you laugh at people who can critically think and analyze with a smug smile thinking you just did a one up on them. Go back to sleep man or just as you did here, go spread some more pseudoscience garbage from debunking911.com, because now I really believe anything you say.

I am glad I don't let you do my investing. Because you're so short brained. You have to think long term.

Insurance pays for rebuild, even if it doesn't I am rich, and once the new one is built the profits from that will be very nice as well. So 120 million a year is nothing for the returns he will get on his investment you dolt.

Originally posted by godfather420


Lol okay there Timmy. "Bunch of stupid trufers!!"



For a guy that complains about "trufers" lying, you sure do BS quite a bit yourself.

Not to mention the connections to war-profiteers he has. Netanyahu and Silverstiend are also connected. Netanyahu coined the phrase "war on terror" back in 68 I think.

Silverstein is worth 3.5 Billion that you know about.

I'm sure he had a little extra incentive to give up 120,000,000 a year as well. You know, being connected and all. Pretty much a spoke in a wheel.

But no right...."Just a bunch of lying trufers."

You people make me sick because you laugh at people who can critically think and analyze with a smug smile thinking you just did a one up on them. Go back to sleep man or just as you did here, go spread some more pseudoscience garbage from debunking911.com, because now I really believe anything you say.

I am glad I don't let you do my investing. Because you're so short brained. You have to think long term.

Insurance pays for rebuild, even if it doesn't I am rich, and once the new one is built the profits from that will be very nice as well. So 120 million a year is nothing for the returns he will get on his investment you dolt

So, using truther logic; the proper way for an asbestos abatement in a skyscraper is to hire Muslim Jihadists to fly planes into them.



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Maybe you should light one up.

You know it does promote brain cell growth right? Something it seems your lacking.

The asbestos problem could be last on their list or even non existant. Maybe even just a little extra added bonus to the people that pulled this off. This event did not start a war on asbestos, it started a war on terror. Which is the perfect war to have because you can always just create more terrorists.

The reason they used muslims to pull it off is so they could blame al-ciada and invade afgahnastan because thats where the big boogeyman leader was.

They then were able to complete a pipeline from the caspian sea full of oil because it had to pass through afgahnistan. Not to mention the opium trade skyrocketed after the U.S. went in, to 93% of the worlds supply today. The soldiers admit that they grow it. I am sure the money goes to black projects and such. Also afgahn marijuana export has went off the charts.

Not too hard to see.