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Originally posted by mytheroy
I say when crap hits the fan, ask yourself this how many Americans live in a at one given time? how many police is there actually to up hold police? sure they call in enforcements, but millions in a city, come on stand up, and say your sick of it raise as one and they'll say holy crap we messed up lol
Originally posted by Evanzsayz
Originally posted by pyrael
Originally posted by Evanzsayz
Why dont they get mad and storm the front line, the police wouldnt stand a chance!
Because the police have radios and guns and no matter how you try, you cannot beat the radio.
What good are your guns and radios when thousands swarm you and take them from you?
Originally posted by OrchusGhule
I find it fascinating that you will never hear a pro-non-violence protester talk about the labor rebellions in the late 1800's. Why? Because those rebellions WERE violent, and THEY WORKED to bring real change.
Originally posted by flickster
i so want to be a cop now. beating up on stinking hippies looks fun.
"The individuals who linked arms and actively resisted, that in itself is an act of violence," UC police Capt. Margo Bennett said. "I understand that many students may not think that, but linking arms in a human chain when ordered to step aside is not a nonviolent protest."
Originally posted by Badgered1
The local police department have released the names of the offending officers, right?
No. Of course not. That would be too easy. That would be admitting to being thugs and bought mercenaries.
There was nothing threatening in the behavior of the crowd. The cop simply wanted to pick a fight, or hurt someone in the comfort of the companionship of his fellow thugs.
That's a cowardly thug. That's not an officer of the law. I hold you in absolute contempt and consider you the worst of humanity. You are what is wrong with the world.
You coward.
Originally posted by Magnum007
reply to post by IndigoValor
Watch the protesters do completely nothing. Then a woman gets jabbed in by a baton...Seriously?
At 0:41 watch the policeman in the bottom left corner...
They are protecting a building, they were told to move several times and they didn't comply... Don't move? We'll help you move...
It's simple: listen and don't get hurt, don't listen and get hurt... Basic logic 101...
Originally posted by Propulsion
Things are going to happen when police officers are pushed to the limit. How come OWS doesn’t report all the brutality inflicted to the officers by the protesters? How about the rocks and bottles? Where are those videos? It’s only when a protester gets hurt, that all hell breaks loose.
But don’t fret; we have people (like this guy in the following video) who will put the police in their place if anything should happen. I feel much safer now…
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
Your Rights as a U.S. Citizen Against Unlawful Arrest ..........
“Citizens may resist Unlawful arrest to the point of taking an officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S., 529. The court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense was commited.”
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. If the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh V. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. 1; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260.
“Each Person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, ther person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self defense.” State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100.
“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910.
“The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.”
Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol. 2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197.
I am sure some Police Officers in this Country are Unaware about these Court Decisions when Overstepping their Authority . People who know the Law should Remind them about it from Time to Time for the sake of their Own Safety . The Woman in this Video was Intimidated by that Police Officer because she was just Not Aware of her Rights and Cow Downed to his Intimidation of her Ignorance . She should take this matter to a Lawyer Immediately and press charges against him IMO .
Originally posted by Propulsion
Maybe if people wouldn’t put themselves in a situation where they’re going to get hurt, than this problem wouldn’t have occurred in the first place. “Violence begets violence”. Stop provoking, intimidating, threatening, throwing rocks/bottles, etc., etc., etc., and problem solved!
When a protester hits an officer in the head with a bottle or rock, do you pull the officer to the side and shelter him/her when he/she is hurt? I cannot find the video, but there was one where an officer got hit with a projectile by a protester. Everyone in the crowd yelled….”yeah, take that bitch, hit him again, go cry to momma, what a baby, etc..
You will have some bad officers, but NOT all of them are bad! Of course when you are in danger or hurt, you will call 911 for assistance. Maybe the police need to stop helping people. You can’t have it both ways! Very hypocritical…
Originally posted by RightWingAvenger
reply to post by IndigoValor
Thats what our troops are fighting for...God Bless America