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Originally posted by Vikus
Ever since the Tea Party got hijacked from the Sean Hannity types, they won't put any more pressure on Washington for things that matters.
The original Tea Party message was for smaller government, no bailouts for Wall Street, cutting down foreign presence, cutting corporate welfare (a lot of corporations gave money to leftists), and cutting out corruption.
The OWS movement seems to agree with 60%-70% of TP message. The problem is the OWS is being hijacked by George Soros and Obama and turning the (portrayed) OWS message into one of outright socialism.
The funny thing is that I was listening to the radio today and a couple of "conservative" hosts were interviewing individual Occupy L.A. protesters and giving them unedited free time to speak. The Occupy L.A. protesters (while speaking in a weird New Age sort of way) were saying nearly exactly the same thing that (original) Tea Party members were saying. Many were complaining that the Federal Reserve is ruining everything, politicians are corrupt, Obama is worthless and part of the 1% crowd, banks are screwing people over, and multinationals were moving jobs to China. Sure there were some protesting for illegal immigrants, but hey, it's L.A.
What I got was that just like the elite media was trying to make the TP look like a bunch of racist inbreds, Fox News and such were trying to make OWS look like drugged up spoiled hippies. The Occupy L.A. members who spoke actually sounded very intelligent, just like Tea Party members who were given a chance to speak through the media censorship. Even the pro-illegal people were pointing out that illegals suck up much less money than the banksters.
I hope there will be a point when people start looking at who the real enemy is.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
[Oh I can verify it, the absense of nationwide tea party protests since the end of 2010, coincidentally following the 2010 congressional elections where we saw Republicans take the majority. The absence of a nationwide tea party protests before the general elections and before Obama got elected.
You can verify my personal account?
Lets start with your first issue-- after I get my beer. Regardless of who and what voted "aye" or "nay" (thought I would prefer 100% nay on the issue of 'Re-authorizing" the Patriot Act; it came down to the man who signed it into law....President Obama.
Just like all who like to claim the "Bush Tax-Cuts", the Patriot Act can be seen as President Obama's. He had a chance to make a stand yet took the politically expedient way out and signed it into law.
Did I ever, in my post you replied to, say that those voted in were separated from the last bunch?
Pull your head out of your rectal cavity
I said, given my personal dealings with people
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
I just did. I can't change your mind, you've made it up already.
So now you're blaming Obama for the action and choices of the Republican senate, many of whom are tea party freshman? How convenient. Obama's signing of the patriot act does not discount the fact that many republican congress, many of whom were tea party freshman, voted to continue it. Not sure where you get this rational from, but then again, that's just your excuse.
...new republican majority?...
You didn't say it, you implied it. You continued to insist that the tea parties were 'waiting' to see how this new bunch of republicans were performing, the ones they voted in, the ones they insisted needed to take over in government. This is the change they and you voted for, and you got 0 change over the last year while they are in power. And what's you're excuse? The tea parties are still 'waiting' to see what they do? What utter nonsense. I don't know how long you intend to make these excuses, they certainly don't do you justice.
Down to personal insults, a shame.
Personal dealings with people? As if your personal dealings with people will make a difference in this country? I suppose when the majority of tea partiers continue to vote in the same Washington hacks who push this country to ruins, you're going to continue to discount this by making excuses that 'your personal dealings' are all that matters, while criticizing liberal and Obama voters for their actions, right.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
As have you. Interesting though that you have decided that my personal accounts are yours.
No, if you would actually utilize some critical thinking skills, I was not blaming President Obama.
The Senate is comprised of a Democratic majority. In regards to the Patriot Act extension; it received equal love from the Democratically held Senate; both Democrats and Republicans say "aye"
All of Congress and the President are at fault.
Yet you want to continue this division and argue
First you claim to give understanding to the small amount of people I have spoken to that retain the Tea Party
I offered up a personal experience;