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Originally posted by spoor
No, as what do you get when you burn hydrogen in the presence of oxygen....
You are describing a perpetual motion machine
Originally posted by EmilNomel
so what you are saying that burning hydrogen in the presence of oxygen means a perpetual motion machine...
that's the most ridiculous thing i ever heard!
do you even know what a perpetual motion machine is?
Originally posted by charlyv
reply to post by EmilNomel
Yes it is a perpetual motion machine.. How can you compare a conventional automobile?
A regular gas car does not manufacture it's own fuel to keep it running , does it?
You are describing a closed system that does work by creating it's own source of energy.
By definition, A perpetual motion machine. Look it up.
A physics course will do you well.
Originally posted by EmilNomel
i'm sorry mate but, i don't see this engine to producing water!!
a physics course will do me well indeed
but it would be better for you as you don't even know what a perpetual motion machine is
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
That 2004 Dodge pickup has not only a regular car battery under the hood, but it also has a humongous battery in the bed of the pickup. It is the humongous extra battery that's powering the apparatus to create the hydrogen.
What would happen if you disconnected the huge battery in the truck?
Good observation.
Originally posted by EmilNomel
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
That 2004 Dodge pickup has not only a regular car battery under the hood, but it also has a humongous battery in the bed of the pickup.
yes, you are right!
i did not noticed that before...
now i see it at 04:42 on the vid
Originally posted by EmilNomel
Originally posted by dainoyfb
The problem that everybody has when trying to get a system of this nature working is that it takes more energy to make the HHO than the engine can produce with the HHO available from it's own production.
that is not true!
the alternator produces more energy than what's needed to make the HHO
the problem that i can see is safety...
considering the HHO gas pressure build up and it's combustion...
how safe is this system from not exploding your vehicle?
Originally posted by EmilNomel
according to your logic... the regular gasoline operated engine is also a perpetual motion machine!
Originally posted by N3k9Ni
I know this type of system can be made to work. A man named Stanley Meyer did it a few years ago. He developed a HHO generator that he was using to run a dune buggy with water. Sadly, while in the process of patenting his invention, he was found dead and his workshop burned to the ground. Fortunately, his vehicle was not in the shop. He had stored it in a friend's garage. People since then have studied his device and are trying to replicate it.
I'm still on the fence about using water as a fuel. I know it would be a tremendous boon. The drawback I see is that water freezes. Where I live, for instance, it's not unusual for temperatures to drop below freezing about mid November and stay there until March. Maybe in cases like that, one would have to switch fuels for winter and summer.
I won't even go into the prospect of such devices being subject to taxes and licensing that would make them financially unfeasible.edit on 30-9-2011 by N3k9Ni because: typo
This is an artist's conception of people who believe such claims without any proof:
Originally posted by EmilNomel
but, he was able to power his hydrogen generator with less than half an amp... and producing several hundred percent more energy than it consumed!!
100 times is ten thousand percent, so why are you excited about a measly several hundred percent?
One build-up has produced up to 100 times more power than was input
Originally posted by EmilNomel
FREE ENERGY inventor mysteriously died!
Why don't we have water powered cars?
killing the people who want to save the world?
That is so true it's one of my favorite illustrations from a youtube video:
Originally posted by john_bmth
An open mind is a good thing, but an open mind that accepts any old rubbish without pause for thought is not.
Originally posted by john_bmth
Originally posted by EmilNomel
FREE ENERGY inventor mysteriously died!
Define 'mysterious'. People die all the time. In fact, humans have 100% fatality rate. Hell, if you want to get all conspiracy theorist about the whole thing, maybe one of the people he ripped off whacked him.
Why don't we have water powered cars?
Because you cannot power a car perpetually on just water. You spend more energy generating the fuel than you get from using the fuel.
killing the people who want to save the world?
The dude was a convicted fraudster with absolutely no training as a scientist. No one to date has been able to repeat his "work" because it did not work in the first place. None of his explanations hold up to any scrutiny and they have all the usual pseudo-scientific hall marks of a scam artist.
The fact you've gone from not hearing about the guy to being a zealous proponent within a couple of hours demonstrates the complete and utter lack of critical thinking on your part. An open mind is a good thing, but an open mind that accepts any old rubbish without pause for thought is not.
Originally posted by EmilNomel
why do i even bother talking to:
closed minded
greedy
jealous people?
sure people die all the time...
and according to your logic that means that no one has ever been poisoned and thus killed by others?
what a ridiculous and poor explanation without any proof on your claim what so ever!
hmmm... mysteriously died maybe because he was poisoned by uranium?
if his invention did not work and was a scam as you quickly try to accuse... then why was he offered 1 billion dollars by the oil industry??
perhaps your own jealousy quickly accuses (without even a short pause for a thought) others of being scam artists wile listening to your closed minded old rubbish inner ego?
...you ever thought of that??
ok, so you say i lack critical thinking...
that maybe is a small fault on my part
(i'm not perfect)
but, all that you have is critical thinking as the perfect critic who is quick to judge others and accusing them for whatever you can think of
without any proof what so ever...
offending and insulting them just because they say something that's not to your ego's liking!